[RE-wrenches] old sanyos failing Iso test

[Jerry Shafer]

Also remember workmanship is a way around performance issues
Jerry

On Wed, May 30, 2018, 11:35 AM Drake <drake.chamberlin at redwoodalliance.org>
wrote:

> Aren't Sanyo modules warranted for 20 years? That is less, but still
> substantial.
>
> Does anyone know if Sanyo modules are affected by Potential Induced
> Degradation (PID) when connected to an ungrounded inverter?
>
> At 01:43 PM 5/30/2018, you wrote:
>
> To all that were asking about warranty on the old Sanyos, I was told that
> Panasonic that took over the Sanyo product will warranty the product, that
> being said, David was the contact I had and who is it that told me this,
> please take note that the Sanyo warranty was less then most other
> manufactures. David.Lopez at us.panasonic.com
>
> On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 8:12 AM, <chris at oasismontana.com > wrote:
> Don’t forget about me please!
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> --Chris @ the sunny Oasis MT
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> From: Jerry Shafer <jerrysgarage01 at gmail.com >
> Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2018 8:07 PM
> To: chris at oasismontana.com
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> Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] old sanyos failing Iso test
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> Yes, I do. Will get it in the next day or so, he is a rep but can make the
> connection for you
> Jerry
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> On Tue, May 15, 2018, 7:10 AM <chris at oasismontana.com > wrote:
> Jerry:  Do you have Panasonic’s contact information for warranty
> service?  I’m hoping I don’t need it but if I do….<
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> Thanks!
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> Chris Daum
> Oasis Montana Inc.
> 406-777-4309 or 4321
> 406-777-4309 fax
> www.oasismontana.com
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> From: RE-wrenches < re-wrenches-bounces at lists.re-wrenches.org> On Behalf
> Of Chris Worcester
> Sent: Monday, May 14, 2018 4:00 PM
> To: 'RE-wrenches' < re-wrenches at lists.re-wrenches.org>
> Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] old sanyos failing Iso test
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> We did a number of Sanyo HIP195, 200, and 210 installs, so far we’ve had
> a few failures showing up as backsheet bubbles. Some of the bubbles were so
> big that the wafer fell away from the glass! Here’s a couple photos.
> Didn’t think Panasonic would take care of this, after an exhausting
> warranty procedure that drew on for months on one system… their Japanese
> enggineering dept said no to our request for replacements on that one
> eventually. Â Â
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> Chris Worcester
> Solar Wind Works
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> From: RE-wrenches [ mailto:re-wrenches-bounces at lists.re-wrenches.org
> <re-wrenches-bounces at lists.re-wrenches.org>] On Behalf Of Ron Young
> Sent: Monday, May 14, 2018 12:49 AM
> To: RE-wrenches
> Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] old sanyos failing Iso test
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> I have several dozen older Sanyo’s installed from that period. Are there
> any obvious physical degradations to look for or specific tests that can
> show issues? I don’t have a megger but have two systems installed in grid
> tied systems and a couple off-grid. No performance complaints as yet.
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> Ron
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> On May 13, 2018, at 11:51 AM, Jerry Shafer <jerrysgarage01 at gmail.com >
> wrote:
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> Kirk
> I dont know if you know this but Panisonic will warranty the old Sanyos,
> just got this from a rep last week.the issue you are having may be due to
> the failing of the back sheet under the frame edge.
> Jerry
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> On Sun, May 13, 2018, 6:04 AM Kirk Herander <vtsolar at icloud.com> wrote:
> I now have two systems with older Sanyos(Panasonic), circa 2004, which
> consistently fail the inverter (Solaredge) startup Insolation test in wet
> weather. Usually 200 – 550 kohms, just below tthe inverters 600k limit.
> Confirmed by my meggering. I discovered this after convincing the owners to
> upgrade the inverters from old SMA’s which don’t test for it. Anyone
> else see this issue in older panels, in particular Sanyos?
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> Kirk Herander
> Owner|Principal, VT Solar, LLC
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