[RE-wrenches] old sanyos failing Iso test

Wed May 30 17:35:42 EDT 2018

Aren't Sanyo modules warranted for 20 years? That 
is less, but still substantial.

Does anyone know if Sanyo modules are affected by 
Potential Induced Degradation (PID) when connected to an ungrounded inverter?

At 01:43 PM 5/30/2018, you wrote:
>To all that were asking about warranty on the 
>old Sanyos, I was told that Panasonic that took 
>over the Sanyo product will warranty the 
>product, that being said, David was the contact 
>I had and who is it that told me this, please 
>take note that the Sanyo warranty was less then 
>most other manufactures. 
><mailto:David.Lopez at us.panasonic.com>David.Lopez at us.panasonic.com
>
>On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 8:12 AM, 
><<mailto:chris at oasismontana.com>chris at oasismontana.com> wrote:
>Donât forget about me please!
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>--Chris @ the sunny Oasis MT
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>From: Jerry Shafer 
><<mailto:jerrysgarage01 at gmail.com>jerrysgarage01 at gmail.com>
>Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2018 8:07 PM
>To: <mailto:chris at oasismontana.com>chris at oasismontana.com
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>Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] old sanyos failing Iso test
>
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>Yes, I do. Will get it in the next day or so, he 
>is a rep but can make the connection for you
>Jerry
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>On Tue, May 15, 2018, 7:10 AM 
><<mailto:chris at oasismontana.com>chris at oasismontana.com> wrote:
>Jerry:Â  Do you have Panasonicâs contact 
>information for warranty service?Â  Iâm hoping 
>I donât need it but if I do
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>Thanks!
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>Chris Daum
>Oasis Montana Inc.
>406-777-4309 or 4321
>406-777-4309 fax
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>From: RE-wrenches 
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>On Behalf Of Chris Worcester
>Sent: Monday, May 14, 2018 4:00 PM
>To: 'RE-wrenches' 
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>Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] old sanyos failing Iso test
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>We did a number of Sanyo HIP195, 200, and 210 
>installs, so far weâve had a few failures 
>showing up as backsheet bubbles. Some of the 
>bubbles were so big that the wafer fell away 
>from the glass! Hereâs a couple photos. 
>Didnât think Panasonic would take care of 
>this, after an exhausting warranty procedure 
>that drew on for months on one system
 their 
>Japanese enggineering dept said no to our 
>request for replacements on that one eventually. Â Â
>Â
>Chris Worcester
>Solar Wind Works
>NABCEP Certified PV Installer
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>From: RE-wrenches 
>[<mailto:re-wrenches-bounces at lists.re-wrenches.org>mailto:re-wrenches-bounces at lists.re-wrenches.org] 
>On Behalf Of Ron Young
>Sent: Monday, May 14, 2018 12:49 AM
>To: RE-wrenches
>Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] old sanyos failing Iso test
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>I have several dozen older Sanyoâs installed 
>from that period. Are there any obvious physical 
>degradations to look for or specific tests that 
>can show issues? I donât have a megger but 
>have two systems installed in grid tied systems 
>and a couple off-grid. No performance complaints as yet.
>Â
>Ron
>Â
>On May 13, 2018, at 11:51 AM, Jerry Shafer 
><<mailto:jerrysgarage01 at gmail.com>jerrysgarage01 at gmail.com> wrote:
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>Kirk
>I dont know if you know this but Panisonic will 
>warranty the old Sanyos, just got this from a 
>rep last week.the issue you are having may be 
>due to the failing of the back sheet under the frame edge.
>Jerry
>Â
>On Sun, May 13, 2018, 6:04 AM Kirk Herander 
><<mailto:vtsolar at icloud.com>vtsolar at icloud.com> wrote:
>I now have two systems with older 
>Sanyos(Panasonic), circa 2004, which 
>consistently fail the inverter (Solaredge) 
>startup Insolation test in wet weather. Usually 
>200  550 kohms, just below tthe inverters 600k 
>limit. Confirmed by my meggering. I discovered 
>this after convincing the owners to upgrade the 
>inverters from old SMAâs which donât test 
>for it. Anyone else see this issue in older panels, in particular Sanyos?
>Â
>Kirk Herander
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