Gas Dryers and Washing Machines [RE-wrenches]

jay peltz jay at asis.com
Mon Sep 11 21:34:28 EDT 2000


Hi James,

Thanks for the info.  Maybe I have just not seen or changed enough to run into
these problems.  I hope that I haven't given the idea that I just wing it.  I am
only doing what the manufacture says.  Interesting how many different types
there are though.

I will keep a sharp eye for making sure it is done right.  Mostly I live in an
area without natural gas, so the almost all the appliances sold are already made
for this.

Thanks for all the input.

Jay

"James Lamb, Middle Fork Engineering" wrote:

> Jay
>  Its is always best to check with the manufacture since an improper pressure
> at the orifice will cause incomplete mixing of the air and propane. This
> will cause a dirty flame producing carbon monoxide.  Some regulators require
> a spring replacement and others have a item that is reversed or inserted
> into the regulator that compresses the spring for the higher pressure. Note
> that the pressure must be adjusted to a specified pressure as provided by
> the manufacture. To be safe the manufacture must be consulted since there
> are different methods to do the conversion. Combustion is an area that must
> be done right. Looking right is not enough.
>
> James Lamb
> Middlefork Engineering
>
>
> > ----------
> > From:         jay peltz[SMTP:jay at asis.com]
> > Reply To:     RE-wrenches at topica.com
> > Sent:         Monday, September 11, 2000 11:35 AM
> > To:   RE-wrenches at topica.com
> > Subject:      Re: Gas Dryers and Washing Machines [RE-wrenches]
> >
> > Hi Holt,
> >
> > Thanks for the heads up.  I would of course check with each unit, but the
> > ones
> > that I have worked on have listed that the only change is the jet/orifice.
> > Yes
> > you are right that there is a difference in pressure etc.  But do you have
> > any
> > idea of how these other companies do the converson without changing
> > anything but
> > the orifice?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Jay Peltz
> >
> > Holt Kelly wrote:
> >
> > > Hello Jay,
> > > I was specifically talking about Millivolt control valves, and the valve
> > is
> > > not replaced, but a conversion of the regulator in the valve is
> > > necessary(changes the pressure). Not sure that many gas dryers use these
> > > valves but anything with a thermostat/remote switch usually does. Also
> > the
> > > electronic ignition valves require switching the regulator.
> > > There is a big difference in the pressure. LP requires 11 water column
> > > inches while NG requires only 4.5 WCI. I has to do with efficiency in
> > the
> > > way LP(heavier than air) needs more pressure to burn clean. If the
> > > conversion of the appliance is not correct it will self destruct($$$$).
> > > Please be careful.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: jay peltz [mailto:jay at asis.com]
> > > Sent: Friday, September 01, 2000 7:27 PM
> > > To: RE-wrenches at topica.com
> > > Subject: Re: Gas Dryers and Washing Machines [RE-wrenches]
> > >
> > > Hi All,
> > >
> > > >From my experierence this isn't true.  To convert all that I have done,
> > > either a
> > > burner orifice or an burner and pilot orifice is needed.  There is no
> > need
> > > to
> > > replace the control valves on the units that I have either worked on or
> > > talked
> > > to people about.  The gas pressure being pretty much the same, and there
> > is
> > > no
> > > problem with the gas valve working either propane or natural gas.
> > >
> > > Hope this helps.
> > >
> > > jay peltz
> > >
> > > Holt Kelly wrote:
> > >
> > > > Greetings,
> > > > Please Note that when converting LP to NG or vice versa that not only
> > is
> > > the
> > > > main burner orifice changed, the regulator on the valve and the pilot
> > > > orifice must be changed (millivolt control valves). These components
> > > should
> > > > be in the conversion kit. One final note: some mfg's in the fireplace
> > > (gas)
> > > > industry will not sell you a conversion kit - you have to send the
> > burner
> > > to
> > > > them($$$$$$)so be sure that a conversion kit is available from the
> > mfg. of
> > > > the appliance you are buying.
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: allan [mailto:allan at positivenergy.com]
> > > > Sent: Monday, August 28, 2000 7:50 PM
> > > > To: RE-wrenches at topica.com
> > > > Subject: Re: Gas Dryers and Washing Machines [RE-wrenches]
> > > >
> > > > Travis,
> >
>
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