[RE-wrenches] Obscure PG&E NEM 3 question for CA Wrenchers

[david quattro]

Years ago I had a customer who was dead set against a Smart meter. PGE
fought them, but the customer was insistent. There is a way, but PGE
charged an additional fee to keep the mechanical disc style meter, because
they have to pay an employee meter reader.
    With NEM3, PGE is almost certain to replace the meter with a digital
meter. the transmitter device can be removed or deenergized. under TOU they
have to keep track of Time of day that positive and negative kWh's are
registered.

On Tue, Jan 14, 2025 at 10:36 PM William Miller via RE-wrenches <
re-wrenches at lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote:

> David:
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> I suspect it will be sooner rather than later the client will have to
> accept the NEM3 rates and a Smart meter.  NEM3 is a time of use rate
> (metered down to the hour for export) and you can't do that with a
> mechanical meter.
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> I imagine the concern is about RF data transmission.  They may be able to
> request a meter that does not connect wirelessly to the utility for meter
> reading purposes.  This is pure speculation on my part.
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> William
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> Miller Solar
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> 17395 Oak Road, Atascadero, CA 93422
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> www.millersolar.com
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> CA Lic. 773985
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-bounces at lists.re-wrenches.org] On
> Behalf Of David Coale via RE-wrenches
> Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2025 10:11 PM
> To: RE-wrenches
> Cc: David Coale
> Subject: [RE-wrenches] Obscure PG&E NEM 3 question for CA Wrenchers
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> This is an obscure PG&E NEM 3 related question for the California
> Wrenchers, since no one out side CA - PG&E land might be able to answer
> this.
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> I have a client with a 25 year old grid-tied system.  When PG&E went to
> smart meters they declined (worried about EMF) and have been able to hold
> on to their old mechanical meter and the old billing.
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> Now they want to upgrade to a new system as they are electrifying their
> home.  Does anyone know if they will still be able to hold on to their old
> meter and old billing?  I am guessing not and they just got lucky that PG&E
> has not forced them to get a new smart meter.  Seems like they found a
> loophole and did not really realize it.
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> Thanks,
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> David
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