[RE-wrenches] AC lock-out

jay jay.peltz at gmail.com
Tue May 2 16:00:09 PDT 2017


What got the PG&E lockout lifted was no-one knew who had the list, how it was to be implemented/locked or when how to be un locked, or who kept the keys, just to name a few.

Its all based on the faulty thinking that its stupid power ( generator ) and not smart power IEEE/UL 1741.

You might try if an inverter engineer might talk with the utility engineer.  


And I’ve actually got one on my house.  Its one of the first installs in northern California, and not only is the a lockable disco, its locked ON.  

jay
peltz power


> On May 2, 2017, at 9:50 AM, Mac Lewis <maclewis1 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Here in CO, a lot of rural utilities have this requirement. Its very unnecessary as we all know.  I would shoot for a directional placarding solution. Indicate where the main service is from the solar disconnect and where the solar disconnect is from the main. Worth a try, it always works here.
> 
> On May 2, 2017 10:46 AM, "James Jefferson Jarvis" <jj at aprsworld.com <mailto:jj at aprsworld.com>> wrote:
> Rather than trench, you could install a whole house disconnect. I doubt it would ever be opened.
> 
> Here in my part of Minnesota the utilities won't allow you to do a whole premise disconnect. The lockable solar disconnect must serve the solar only and must be located within 6' of the meter.
> 
> So I've had a few occasions where the customer has had to spend thousands of extra dollars to meet that requirement.
> 
> It's a pretty crazy (read: anti-renewables) requirement in this day and age.
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> William
> 
> On May 2, 2017, at 7:18 AM, frenergy <frenergy at psln.com <mailto:frenergy at psln.com>> wrote:
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> Especially CA wrenches,
> 
>            Anybody had any of their GT systems locked-out by their utility with the AC disco?  I'm dealing with a utility that still insists in installing an AC disco no matter what the conditions are and in this very rural area this can mean running an extra line out to the meter/main 100+ ft from the house (distribution panel back at the house).  So backhoe, labor, materials and Oops the backhoe hit a propane line.  Do they actually have a box of hundreds of locks to be able to lock-out PV systems?  I doubt it.  Would appreciate knowing for a discussion with their engineer.
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> Bill
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