[RE-wrenches] Whole house energy moniters

Philip Boutelle philboutelle at gmail.com
Mon Dec 5 08:43:01 PST 2016


This product by Sense is similar to CURB (or eGauge <http://www.egauge.net/>,
or other multiple-CT devices), but you install a single set of CTs on the
main feeds (plus on on the solar if you have it). The device then 'learns
the electronic signature' of the loads in the house to disaggregate what is
being used. I haven't tried one yet.
https://sense.com/

I have previously installed a beta device from Verdegris, which does the
same thing (single CT set) but is geared for commercial customers, whereas
Sense is residential.
http://verdigris.co/

-Phil


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On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 6:01 AM, William Dorsett <wmdorsett at sbcglobal.net>
wrote:

> There is a new one mentioned in SolarPro, from a company called CURB
> http://energycurb.com/) . CURB gives CT’s for eighteen different circuits
> so over time you can understand how each load is performing. One of our
> families had a broken pump shaft so it never registered that there was more
> water in the pressure tank, so it ran for weeks. The site mentions that
> they will be able to predict appliance failure from historical data. And it
> can monitor overall PV generation. It looks very promising though from the
> reviews it may not yet allow a download of historical data. It would be
> great if in addition to logging data, it would allow active management of
> interlocking relays to control demand charges. There is another product
> called Energy Sentry (http://energysentry.com/ ) , that allows you to
> prioritize your large loads so they aren’t allowed to all come on at the
> same time. As more utilities add Time of Use and demand charges this will
> be a really valuable piece of hardware. For installers this will become
> just another value added service. These two companies should merge.
>
>
>
> Bill Dorsett
>
> Manhattan, KS
>
>
>
> *From:* RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-bounces at lists.re-wrenches.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Jerry Shafer
> *Sent:* Sunday, December 04, 2016 2:42 AM
> *To:* Peter Talmage; RE-wrenches
> *Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] Whole house energy moniters
>
>
>
> Peter
>
> is this system CT based, can you turn around the CT's as when in most
> cases installation says to install directional and for solar they get
> installed backwards instead.
> Jerry
>
>
>
> On Sat, Dec 3, 2016 at 2:25 PM, Peter Talmage <ptalmage at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Does anyone have experience with whole house energy monitors that work
> with interfaced PV arrays. It seems most just deal with the array output as
> a load .
>
>
>
> Thanks.  Peter Talmage
>
>
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