[RE-wrenches] KAUAI CHARITY CASE

[Dana]

Thanks Jay I have not used I-E batteries & This is the direct result of my Kauai charity case client online shopping.
 
She was sold an undersized/over promised system: 50% of req’d PV & basically one days storage of T-105 style batteries. She has burned up 2 sets of batteries and has had several of installers try to steer her to total replacement with a variety of systems. 
 
She has an Outback VFX3624 dual inverter system, no problems there &  ½ the PV she needs. The equipment originally installed in a mini shed a ways from the house that could have been installed under a high covered porch on the ocean side of her house.  
 
Her health is an issue, she lives free in a house that was a gift [she got to build it], & there is no utility available.
She is not able to afford me to fly there [ I just moved to ID & have started my new house here additionally]  & I have to say she has run into a # of opportunistic installers that think she is easy pickings.
 
She needs 1200 watts of additional PV & 760-900 AHR @ 24 VDC of LOW TO NO MAINTENANCE long life battery & moving the power equipment to under a covered porch.
 
Anyone with integrity free to assist? 
 
Please contact me off line for a discussion.  Thanks
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Dana Orzel 
Great Solar Works, Inc -  NABCEP # 051112-136
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From: jay [mailto:jay.peltz at gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2016 9:32 AM
To: dana at solarwork.com Orzel
Subject: offsite
 
 
Hi Dana,
 
I can go into great detail about all the negatives on NiFe batteries.
But if this is a charity case, I don’t know how you can even think about them.
 
First off, while yes you can take them down quite deep w/o damage, but then you also don’t have much storage either.
So I don’t agree with the logic, I feel its based on trying to sell a smaller than useful battery requiring more generator run time.
 
400 amp hr at 24v nife is $7700 plus shipping.
 
800 amp hr L-16’s are $2200?
really good ones with 2500 cycles to 50% are $3200
 
I sure don’t recommend them. 
Let me know if you want more info.
 
jay
 
 



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From: "Dana" <dana at solarwork.com>
Subject: [RE-wrenches] Battery Watt hours FLA VS Iron Edison Batteries
Date: October 14, 2016 at 6:55:43 AM PDT
To: "'RE-wrenches'" <re-wrenches at lists.re-wrenches.org>
Reply-To: RE-wrenches <re-wrenches at lists.re-wrenches.org>
 
Good Morning All,
 
I have a charity case client that needs 760 to 900 AHR at 24 VDC. I have installed HUP Solar One Batteries for 20+ years and do not have any experience with the Iron Edison battery. My client went to Iron Edison & was told that 360 AHR at 24 VDC would cover the same AHR as a 760 to 900 AHR in FLA.  I understand you can use the IE deeper typically than a FLA.
 
Math is math to me & how I have sized [successfully for years] Is there something I am missing or has my client been misinformed? 
 
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Dana Orzel
Great Solar Works, Inc -  NABCEP # 051112-136
 <mailto:dana at solarwork.com> dana at solarwork.com  -  <http://www.solarwork.com/> www.solarwork.biz
O - 970.626.5253    F - 970.626.4140   c - 208.721.7003
"Responsible Technologies for Responsible People since 1988"  
 
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