[RE-wrenches] New Pge TOU rates

[Philip Boutelle]

I use NREL's SAM software for TOU analysis and rate comparisons. Free, but
you don't get the nice proposals that come with EnergyToolbase. Also not as
helpful without a customer load profile to use as the baseline.
https://sam.nrel.gov/

-Phil Boutelle, PE

On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 9:54 AM, August Goers <august at luminalt.com> wrote:

> Bill,
>
>
>
> Yes, my understanding is that mandatory TOU doesn’t start until NEM 2.0
> rolls out. For the sites that we’ve analyzed with TOU-A and TOU-B, it is
> definitely better to have a South to West orientation, but other
> orientations don’t necessarily kill the deal. The NEM 2.0 “haircut” is only
> part of how the utilities are trying to recoup their costs. Rate schedules
> are not nearly as solar friendly as they used to be! I wish we could have
> E-7 again.
>
>
>
> All this said, bill analysis is complicated and there is no one-size-all
> solution. That’s why having a good bill analysis and simulation tool is
> key.
>
>
>
> -August
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> *From:* RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-bounces at lists.re-wrenches.org] *On
> Behalf Of *frenergy
> *Sent:* Monday, June 27, 2016 9:14 AM
> *To:* re-wrenches at lists.re-wrenches.org
> *Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] New Pge TOU rates
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>
>
> correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't this new mandatory assignment to TOU
> with PG&E start when NEM2.0 starts.  I think we can keep using E1 up to the
> change...which is soon.  Some sites just don't have good afternoon options
> here in the Sierras (mountains, trees, etc)  Do we start declining jobs
> that have excellent SE facing options?  Please enlighten me.
>
> Bill
>
> Feather River Solar Electric
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> Bill Battagin, Owner
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> On 6/27/2016 6:57 AM, August Goers wrote:
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> Hi Jason,
>
>
>
> The mandatory switch to a TOU rate along with NEM 2.0 forces all of us
> working with grid tied systems in CA to thoroughly rethink our game plan!
> We have been using Energy Toolbase (as Mac mentioned) to model proposals to
> accurately estimate post-solar bills under one of these new rates
> schedules. TOU-A in my experience tends to be a little better for folks in
> the “normal” monthly consumption range, say below 800-1000 kWh/month. High
> energy users will probably be better off going TOU-B. For those with
> electric vehicles, EV-A is a really good option. That said, we’re still
> wrapping our heads around the best rates and design strategies. The peak
> rates on the TOU schedules are getting later and later, so west facing
> arrays are definitely a plus.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
>
> August
>
> Luminalt
>
>
>
> *From:* RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-bounces at lists.re-wrenches.org
> <re-wrenches-bounces at lists.re-wrenches.org>] *On Behalf Of *Jason Andrade
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 21, 2016 4:59 PM
> *To:* re-wrenches at lists.re-wrenches.org
> *Subject:* [RE-wrenches] New Pge TOU rates
>
>
>
> Hi Wrenches,
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>
>
> I am looking at the new rates for PG&E’s time of use and was wondering
> what others in California are using Tou-A or Tou-B? it looks like if you
> have a West facing array Tou-B is going to be the better choice if you can
> control your usages.
>
> http://www.pge.com/nots/rates/tariffs/ResTOUCurrent.xls
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> Thanks for any input
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