[RE-wrenches] SolarEdge 7600 and the Powerwall

Chris Mason cometenergysystems at gmail.com
Tue Jun 14 11:01:12 PDT 2016


Howie,

The Sonnen Eco16 we installed is very nice equipment. I have previously
used the Radian 8048A inverter but the Sonnen adds a really nice battery
system, nice interface, and a Z-wave energy management system.
The battery system is by Sony and the stats are incredible. !0 year
warranty, 10,000 cycles, discharge to zero without damage, very good
battery management system.
The install was easy enough, connecting the mains cabling is a challenge as
there is very little room, I would definitely have a trough or some kind of
cable management device above the unit. It takes two people, one to guide
the cables into place and one to push them.
The batteries are so light it is surprising, one person can easily carry
them. This alone is enough reason to go Lithium.
I set the minimum battery reserve to 10%, this client wants to use as much
solar as possible.

Setting up the system is simple, there's a few parameters but they are
easily understood and the manual is very complete.
The client already had an 8KW PV system using a Sunny Boy 8000TL. That was
already connected to the load panel so we didn't have to do any solar
installation.
The Sonnen Eco uses frequency shift to turn off the inverter. This does not
work when it is grid tied, so it can't stop the inverter backfeeding the
grid, which is a problem for us. There's going to be a fix for that shortly
that will allow us to use a contactor to disable the inverter.

If you have clients looking for Lithium batteries, this is a very clean,
very easy to install and configure system.
I will post pictures after I finish the clean up, we are making a wooden
shroud to hide the conduits.



On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 12:15 PM, Howie Michaelson <howie at suncatchervt.com>
wrote:

> I would love to hear more about that install. Design, sense of equipment
> quality and development (is programming and function well thought out and
> implemented), availability, pictures, etc. are all significant questions.
> Thanks for the offer!
>
> Howie
> Howie Michaelson
> NABCEP Certified Solar PV Installer™
>
> Sun Catcher
> Renewable Energy Systems Sales and Service
> VT Solar Electric Incentive Partner
> 802-272-0004
> On Jun 14, 2016 11:45 AM, "Chris Mason" <cometenergysystems at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I just completed a 14KWh Sonnen system for one of our clients if anyone
>> wants to know about that system.
>> On Jun 14, 2016 8:59 AM, "Lloyd Hoffstatter" <
>> LHoffstatter at sunstruckconsulting.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Marco,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you, your timing is perfect.  I am working with a utility to get
>>> approval of a StorEdge  / Solar Edge combination with Tesla batteries and
>>> potentially export limitation.
>>>
>>> The utility has been asking for examples, and this is the first I can
>>> bring them back.  HECO territory?  Sorry the system isn’t yours, but thanks
>>> for helping  pave the way for others!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Any other examples of StorEdge with batteries or SolarEdge or StorEdge
>>> using export limitation would be most helpful, meeting with them on Friday,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> Lloyd
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Lloyd Hoffstatter
>>>
>>> M.S. in Applied Solar Energy
>>>
>>> NABCEP Solar PV Installer #102503-23
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Director
>>>
>>> Sunstruck Consulting
>>>
>>> Lloyd at sunstruckconsulting.com
>>>
>>> 845-657-8132
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-bounces at lists.re-wrenches.org] *On
>>> Behalf Of *Marco Mangelsdorf
>>> *Sent:* Monday, June 13, 2016 11:43 PM
>>> *To:* 'RE-wrenches' <re-wrenches at lists.re-wrenches.org>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] SolarEdge 7600 and the Powerwall
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, Howie…their SE StorEdge.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Not my install.  Sunrun did it on Oahu.  Did a big press whoopdeedo and
>>> even got the governor of Hawaii and mayor of Honolulu to attend.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> marco
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-bounces at lists.re-wrenches.org
>>> <re-wrenches-bounces at lists.re-wrenches.org>] *On Behalf Of *Howie
>>> Michaelson
>>> *Sent:* Monday, June 13, 2016 4:55 PM
>>> *To:* RE-wrenches
>>> *Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] SolarEdge 7600 and the Powerwall
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Marco,
>>> I assume that is the StorEdge 7600? Is this your install? What was your
>>> access to the StorEdge?
>>>
>>> Thanks for the photo,
>>> Howie
>>> Howie Michaelson
>>> NABCEP Certified Solar PV Installer™
>>>
>>> Sun Catcher
>>> Renewable Energy Systems Sales and Service
>>> VT Solar Electric Incentive Partner
>>> 802-272-0004
>>> On Jun 13, 2016 9:29 PM, "Marco Mangelsdorf" <marco at pvthawaii.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Provides an idea of size and scale.
>>> >
>>> > From left to right—disconnect, kWh meter, SolarEdge 7600, switch gear,
>>> two Tesla Powerwalls.
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
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Chris Mason
NABCEP Certified Solar PV Installer™
Solar Design Engineer
Generac Generators Industrial technician

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