[RE-wrenches] Radian GSLC
Drake
drake.chamberlin at redwoodalliance.org
Fri May 13 09:01:56 PDT 2016
The relay to protect the generator only works
when the generator is automatically started! A
manually started generator has no protection
against backfeed. I had to set up a contactor to
protect the generator from backfeed from the AC coupled array.
At 11:14 AM 5/13/2016, you wrote:
>BTW, the ROCB also uses both of your AUX relay
>options. Got called in to evaluate a 6 Radian AC
>Coupled configuration with no charger
>controllers and 6 Fronuis. What a cluster
>*%#%(^. The project was a very bad design from
>the beginning. That's what happens when you ask
>a grid tied installer to give you a battery back up solution.Â
>
>Christopher
>
>On Fri, May 13, 2016 at 10:37 AM, Drake
><<mailto:drake.chamberlin at redwoodalliance.org>drake.chamberlin at redwoodalliance.org>
>wrote:
>William and Wrenches,
>
>The lack of room in the GSLC becomes much worse
>when using the factory installed AC coupling
>"solution" using the Remote Operated Circuit
>Breaker or ROCB. This takes up 3 breaker spaces
>plus puts two relays under the breaker column. I
>had to change out the ROCB twice in the one system I installed.Â
>
>The ROCB "solution" takes AC coupling, which is
>essentially straight forward and complicates it
>exponentially. Plus the ROCB itself is prone to
>failure, which could ruin a set of batteries.
>There are numerous other serious problems with
>their approach. With "solutions" like this one, who needs problems!
>
>Drake
>Â
>At 02:52 PM 5/12/2016, you wrote:
>>Wrenches:
>>Ã
>>The recent topic about bypass connections for
>>the Radian is a very pertinent issue for anyone
>>designing a Radian system.ÃÂ The problem is
>>exacerbated by what I perceive is one poor
>>design aspect of the GSLC cabinet.ÃÂ
>>Ã
>>I generally like the Radian series, including
>>the GSLC.ÃÂ I do find it puzzling that
>>installers are expected to make connections to
>>the rear of panel mount circuit
>>breakers.ÃÂ This has to be done blind and in
>>very tight quarters.ÃÂ This is further
>>complicated by the expectation that one will
>>install AC and DC circuit breakers in the same panel.
>>Ã
>>We have tried leaving slack on the leads so the
>>panel can be rotated, but that leaves more lead
>>length than the cabinet will handle.ÃÂ
>>Ã
>>Our solution is to move all AC breakers out of
>>the GSLC and into adjacent, off-the-shelf load centers.ÃÂ
>>Ã
>>We put the minimum PV breakers in the panel,
>>located at the top for maximum latitude on
>>tilting the panel out for access.ÃÂ We also
>>pre-install the breakers in the panel in a
>>bench vise with extra lead length and install
>>the panel as a unit, hopefully never requiring access to the rear again.
>>Ã
>>I applaud the GSLC as a decent product, but it
>>does need improvement in this area.
>>Ã
>>Sincerely,
>>Ã
>>William Miller
>>Ã
>>Ã
>>
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