[RE-wrenches] Apprentice interview

Ray Walters ray at solarray.com
Fri Apr 17 19:04:55 PDT 2015


I agree, but the offgrid lifestyle often makes travel issues and work 
ethics more difficult.

R.Ray Walters
CTO, Solarray, Inc
Nabcep Certified PV Installer,
Licensed Master Electrician
Solar Design Engineer
303 505-8760

On 4/17/2015 3:34 PM, Dana wrote:
>
> Finding someone who is or has lived off grid helps a lot.
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> Dana Orzel
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> *From:*RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-bounces at lists.re-wrenches.org] 
> *On Behalf Of *Ray Walters
> *Sent:* Friday, April 17, 2015 2:53 PM
> *To:* RE-wrenches
> *Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] Apprentice interview
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> Hi All;
>
> Thanks for the replies so far; I apologize for my misunderstood 
> attempt at humor in my initial post.  I agree with Chris here, I hire 
> contract labor all the time, but an apprenticeship is different.  
> Laborers top out pretty quickly and just aren't capable of learning 
> the nuances of off grid electric design.  Much of the time that's all 
> that's needed: pick this up and take it over there,dig here, etc.  I'm 
> not looking for labor, as much as someone who could some day take over 
> the business ( I'm 50 now) and go out and troubleshoot systems on 
> their own.  I consider off grid solar to be more of a craft than mere 
> construction contracting.
> An apprenticeship implies a much longer term arrangement where they 
> may be paid less, but can expect training to the point of getting 
> their electrical license and making a career out of it.  I'm having a 
> much harder time finding the sort of person that wants to make that 
> sort of commitment both in time and in learning.  Folks that have the 
> smarts and ambition necessary are already busy.
>
> Thanks,
>
> R.Ray Walters
> CTO, Solarray, Inc
> Nabcep Certified PV Installer,
> Licensed Master Electrician
> Solar Design Engineer
> 303 505-8760
>
> On 4/17/2015 6:22 AM, Chris Mason wrote:
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>     I'm not sure how the term is used in America, but generally
>     "apprentice" does not mean cheap labour. An apprentice program
>     should be an education path to a qualification with state
>     recognized standards, such as Electrician or Plumber. if you just
>     want inexpensive labour, that's not an apprentice, that's a
>     helper, labourer, intern. As someone who started life as an
>     electrical apprentice, I object to seeing apprenticeships
>     shortchanging the applicants.
>
>     On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 7:27 PM, Dana <dana at solarwork.com
>     <mailto:dana at solarwork.com>> wrote:
>
>     I interview & definitely check references including: look at a
>     tape measure and tell me what those little marks are between 0 &
>     1”, & I look in their truck or car.
>
>     If it’s clean they may take care of your vehicle then same and if
>     it’s a mess that’s what you can expect them to do to your truck.
>
>     Are they smokers? Is that OK in your truck?
>
>     Can they work without checking their cell phone every time it goes
>     Ding or rings?
>
>     Do they have their own tools and do they know how to operate tools
>     like your hydraulic draw punch or wire tugger without F%$ing it up
>     or hurting themselves?
>
>     Does anyone do a background check on new hires?
>
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>     Dana Orzel
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>     Great Solar Works, Inc -  NABCEP # 051112-136
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>     <mailto:re-wrenches-bounces at lists.re-wrenches.org>] *On Behalf Of
>     *Ray Walters
>     *Sent:* Thursday, April 16, 2015 4:50 PM
>     *To:* RE-wrenches
>     *Subject:* [RE-wrenches] Apprentice
>
>     Hi Folks;
>
>     I am considering hiring an apprentice, and I wanted to know if any
>     else has tried this, and what advice and experience everyone had
>     to offer.
>     Also what would be the best way to advertise: Craig's List? /
>
>     Wanted passionate techy soul to share warm fires and cold brews
>     with, watch beautiful sunsets over off grid arrays in remote
>     locations, sometimes carry leaky hazardous materials/.....
>     mmmm.  Obviously I need some help.
>
>     Thanks in Advance,
>
>     -- 
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>     R.Ray Walters
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>     Nabcep Certified PV Installer,
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