[RE-wrenches] Aquion batteries - batteries in general

[Jerry Shafer]

Wrenches
California still does recycling of batteries they in city of industry and
recycle everything from the battery
Jerry
On Feb 17, 2015 1:37 PM, "Bill Hennessy" <bill at berkssolar.com> wrote:

> Greg--I've attached a link to East Penn Manufacturing (aka Deka or MK
> Batteries) recycling brochure. They have the largest battery plant in the
> world and recycle 200 million pounds of lead and 11 million pounds of
> plastic a year in their battery production. We live near them and we're in
> an area littered with superfund sites, but their commitment to the
> environment is impressive. Maybe cuz they're privately held. I don't work
> for them or benefit financially from them.
>
>
> http://www.eastpennmanufacturing.com/wp-content/uploads/Recycling-Brochure-0103.pdf
>
> That said, Aquion is producing a battery without using lead. The price tag
> is much higher and the batteries come with only a two-year warranty. I
> haven't seen anything on their site as to how one could tell if a battery
> is underperforming. Our systems are almost always grid-tie with battery
> backup, so reduced maintenance and long shelf life are the drivers--agm or
> gel.
>
> With their ability to function with a partial state of charge, Aquions
> would do well in a distributed generation scenario and provide great
> support  for frequency and load managing. Imagine the net metering
> possibilities.
>
>
> Bill Hennessy
> Berks Solar, LLC
> 371 Centennial Rd
> Mertztown, PA 19539
>
> o 610 682 4300
> c 484 560 4666
> NABCEP certified installer
> PA contractor #44411
> www.berkssolar.com
>
>   ------------------------------
>  *From:* Greg <greg at remotepowerinc.com>
> *To:* re-wrenches at lists.re-wrenches.org
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 17, 2015 1:56 PM
> *Subject:* [RE-wrenches] Aquion batteries - batteries in general
>
> Marco and all wrenches,
>
> Thanks for the cost /benefit comparison on batteries.  We need batteries
> that won't freeze easily.  Even if the cost was the same we'd need to
> know more about the Aquions before we could risk installing them in the
> North.
>
> I need a fact check from someone on Lead Acids:  Years ago I'd heard
> that lead acid batts sold in the US were built from 90+% recycled
> materials.  Supposedly there was somewhere in California that put them
> in a big mixer and busted them up.  Plastic floated to the top and was
> recycled, lead went to the bottom, also recycled. Electrolyte was also
> at least partially recycled.  If this is true it would make the lead
> acids relatively benign since no new smelting would be needed.  Any
> recent info/links on lead acid battery recycling in the US would be
> greatly appreciated
>
> I like lead acids.  There's a little booklet from New England Solar
> Electric called "BATTERY BOOK FOR YOUR PV HOME" that I give away with
> each set of batteries we sell.  It doesn't completely cure premature
> battery death from neglect but I think it helps a lot. They're
> inexpensive and if you buy them by the dozen they'll cut you a deal on
> them.
>
> Keep using your super powers for good!
>
> Greg Egan
> Remote Power Inc.
> NABCEP Solar Installation Professional
> Alaska #00106064 Journeyman Electrician
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