[RE-wrenches] OFF-LINE: Re: Higher LVR to force full re-charge in small OGPV systems

Ray Walters ray at solarray.com
Tue Dec 31 12:56:04 PST 2013


I missed the part about limiting the design to a 75 w module.  That's 
only a C30 charge rate, which I think is too low for the battery size.  
That's apparently a 5 day at 80% DOD criteria; very 90s.  Haven't they 
heard about $1/w PV?

R.Ray Walters
CTO, Solarray, Inc
Nabcep Certified PV Installer,
Licensed Master Electrician
Solar Design Engineer
303 505-8760

On 12/31/2013 1:43 PM, Exeltech wrote:
> Hey Mr. Ray ...
>
> Aren't you just a gluttony of good info!  You're darned handy to have around.  I wasn't aware of the Midnite unit.  I'll have to scope it out.
>
> I'm concerned with Eric's mention of the bid requiring a 120AH battery (~1.5 kWh) .. and only 75W PV.  Hopefully their loads are small, of short duration  .. and they have plenty of sunlight.  The latter sounds iffy from Eric's statement about "cloudy days".  BZ Products makes a 25A MPPT with a built-in digital voltmeter.  Perhaps it could be a two-in-one option for Eric?
>
> Stay warm.
>
> Happy New Year to you and yours ....
>
>
> Dan
>
> --------------------------------------------
> On Tue, 12/31/13, Ray Walters <ray at solarray.com> wrote:
>
>   Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Higher LVR to force full re-charge in small OGPV systems
>   To: "RE-wrenches" <re-wrenches at lists.re-wrenches.org>
>   Date: Tuesday, December 31, 2013, 2:01 PM
>   
>   I'll chime back in on a few points:
>   
>   To MPPT or not:  It all gets down to the budget: I find the tipping point to be around 250 to 400 watts.  My small systems usually don't have MPPT, and as soon as I get into more than a pair of
>   modules, I'm using the cheaper 60 cell modules with MPPT. I like Blue Sky's new PWM 30 amp controller that also includes a digital meter.
>   
>   Temp compensation:  it all depends on the temperature variation. If its warm year round, just program the charge settings lower, and as Dan said KISS.
>   
>   Metering:  Midnite's Battery Capacity Meter was specifically designed for the African market.  Very simple LED "smiley face, frowny face" reading, It's cheap, and it actually does a decent job of
>   tracking SOC.  Its not a Trimetric, but its way better than a volt meter too.
>   
>   R.Ray Walters
>   CTO, Solarray, Inc
>   Nabcep Certified PV Installer,
>   Licensed Master Electrician
>   Solar Design Engineer
>   303 505-8760
>   
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