[RE-wrenches] smaller 3-phase commercial inverters

Bill Brooks billbrooks7 at yahoo.com
Fri Oct 18 09:26:44 PDT 2013


Marco,

 

Besides the good responses you have already received, 20-30kW, 480V machines are really targeting larger installations that would be on facilities with 480V. I would generally not build a system with 480V inverters on a 208V service. For large systems, there are large inverters running at 208V, for small systems there are plenty of single-phase units that would work just fine. Incidentally, read the new NEC 705.100 in the 2014 code. It clarifies that utilities should not be disallowing single-phase units on a 3-phase service. The typical utility concerns do not understand how the equipment works.

 

(A) Single Phase. Single-phase inverters for hybrid systems

and ac modules in interactive hybrid systems shall be

connected to three-phase power systems in order to limit

unbalanced voltages to not more than 3 percent.

 

Informational Note: For utility-interactive single-phase inverters,

unbalanced voltages can be minimized by the same

methods that are used for single-phase loads on a three- phase

power system. See ANSI/C84.1-2011, Electric Power Systems

and Equipment — Voltage Ratings (60 Hertz).

 

This is a huge change from the way it was previously written. You can thank me next time I see you with a beer. This was my proposal.

 

Bill.

 

From: re-wrenches-bounces at lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-bounces at lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Marco Mangelsdorf
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 9:31 PM
To: 'RE-wrenches'
Subject: [RE-wrenches] smaller 3-phase commercial inverters

 

Yeah, lots more choices out there in the 10+ to 30 kW range….but pretty much all of the larger capacity models only come at 480V.

 

Anyone know why?  We have way more 120/208V applications here in Hawaii than 277/480.

 

marco

 

Chris Mason wrote:

 

>SMA just came out with their Sunny Tripower line for the US. 

 

Yes those are interesting. But they are only for 480 Wye, not 240 Delta.....

Is the Fronius 11.4-3 the only 3-phase inverter that can work with 240 3-phase with a hi-leg (stinger)?

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