[RE-wrenches] Defective modules

jay peltz jay at asis.com
Sun Jun 2 18:03:47 PDT 2013


Hi Carl,

Here is the link to how Photon measures each module.

http://www.photon.info/photon_lab_modul_ertragsm_en.photon?ActiveID=1289

and

http://www.photon.info/photon_lab_modul_ertragsmAD_en.photon?ActiveID=4382

Can you please tell me how they are doing it wrong, and what the test would look like in doing it right?

Many thanks,

jay

peltz power


On Jun 2, 2013, at 3:27 PM, Carl Emerson wrote:

> Jay,
>  
> The short answer is no…
>  
> These are not real world tests of energy yield under ‘normal’ outdoor conditions.
>  
> Photon are setting up field tests for 2013 in Germany and the middle East.
>  
> Then they will have some useful data.
>  
> Carl E.
>  
> Hi Carl
>  
> Would like to see real data. 
>  
> Photon publishes their module data, and thin film are no where near the top of the list. 
>  
> Nexpower. #14
> First solar. #131
> Total of 151 modules in the test. 
>  
> Jay
>  
> Peltz power
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On Jun 1, 2013, at 6:20 PM, "Carl Emerson" <Carl at solarking.net.nz> wrote:
> 
>> Hi there,
>>  
>> Thin film is still getting bad press after early production suffered degradation issues way back in the 90’s.
>>  
>> There is plenty of evidence that thin film produces at least 10% more energy because it performs better at temperature and responds better to global irradiance.
>>  
>> Some brands may be problematic today but this is equally true of crystalline modules.
>>  
>> Sure the efficiency is down and more area is needed for the same rated power but some brands are delivering 20% more energy in some climates.
>>  
>> As for degradation, I have seen crystalline BP’s with every panel turning brown and clapping out after just 12 years in the pacific Islands.
>>  
>> So let’s be Brand specific and not lump all thin film together and tar it with the same brush, based on early failures 30 years ago.
>>  
>> Current issues backed up with hard data would be very useful…
>>  
>> Regards
>> Carl Emerson
>>  
>>  
>>  
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