[RE-wrenches] AC Module vs. Microinverter WAS Enphase M210

Bill Loesch solar1online at charter.net
Thu Sep 27 03:25:10 PDT 2012


Hi Bill, et al,

Thanks for pointing out there are generational differences with the 
SolarBridge inverters.

In one small effort to unmask some of the marketing drivel, as of 
earlier this month, there were seven different module manufacturers 
using some form of SolarBridge inverter. Unfortunate also that SPI booth 
personnel at SolarBridge did not acknowledge (or know) of differences in 
their product lineage, similarly unfortunate at least one module 
manufacturer booth person (VP sales) did not know the distinction 
between microinverter and AC modules.

For what show participation costs exhibitors and attendees alike, less 
fluff (and more accurate information) would be my preference.

Bill Loesch
Solar 1 - Saint Louis Solar

On 26-Sep-12 8:38 PM, William Dorsett wrote:
>
> Jason, If the pictures of the E18 & 19 are accurate, and from my 
> conversations with the different suppliers that include SolarBridge 
> inverters, several of these use the original Pantheon I instead of the 
> updated Pantheon II model. Apparently there are differences in the 
> locking clip in the module connectors and perhaps some problems with 
> inverter data speed between the models. I think SolarBridge looks 
> promising and one of the great advantages of micros is the fine 
> resolution troubleshooting. In locating Enphase under an array, it 
> makes sense to locate as many under as few modules as possible in the 
> event of call backs....so you don't have to flip the card in the 
> middle of the deck. With AC modules, the inverters is going to be 
> evenly distributed under the whole array. So you are way more likely 
> to be crawling out there to the middle.
>
> Bill Dorsett
>
> Sunwrights
>
> Manhattan, KS
>
> *From:*re-wrenches-bounces at lists.re-wrenches.org 
> [mailto:re-wrenches-bounces at lists.re-wrenches.org] *On Behalf Of 
> *David Brearley
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 26, 2012 6:16 PM
> *To:* RE-wrenches
> *Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] Enphase M210
>
> Jason,
>
> You might also check out SunPower's ac modules:
>
> http://us.sunpowercorp.com/homes/products-services/solar-panels/AC-home-solar-panel/
>
> On Sep 26, 2012, at 5:49 PM, Sequoya Cross wrote:
>
>
>
> I haven't seen a full compatibility list on the new SMA-240US. At this 
> point technical downloads aren't available and the data that is 
> present on the website is still preliminary.
>
> I do have a contact who is beta-testing the units and will see if he 
> has any more information or wants to comment.
>
> Thanks-
>
> Sequoya Cross
> Backwoods Solar
>
>
> *From:*re-wrenches-bounces at lists.re-wrenches.org 
> <mailto:re-wrenches-bounces at lists.re-wrenches.org>[mailto:re-wrenches-bounces at lists.re-wrenches.org]*On 
> Behalf Of*Jason Szumlanski
> *Sent:*Tuesday, September 25, 2012 4:50 AM
> *To:*RE-wrenches
> *Subject:*Re: [RE-wrenches] Enphase M210
>
> Uh oh.... I guess that means no more SunPower E18/230 with Enphase. 
> That sucks - it was a good premium product offering for us. Anyone 
> know if the SMA or other microinverters are compatible with SunPower?
>
> *Jason Szumlanski*
>
> /Fafco Solar/
>
> On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 6:51 PM, Marco Mangelsdorf 
> <marco at pvthawaii.com <mailto:marco at pvthawaii.com>> wrote:
>
> Uh oh....I just learned that our Enphase friends are no longer making 
> the M210s.
>
> I need (50) of 'em @ 240V.
>
> Anyone have any leads on that many, please?  Please contact me off-list.
>
> Thanks,
>
> marco
>
>
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