[RE-wrenches] Grounding - Exposed Metal Part

markf at berkeleysolar.com markf at berkeleysolar.com
Fri Jul 27 09:31:47 PDT 2012


Thanks Drake,

My question goes to the situation where the two plates are in physical
contact, but without any other provision to mechanically connect or
electrically bond them.

Mark


> If the plates are bolted together,  then they are bonded to each other.
>
> At 01:33 AM 7/27/2012, you wrote:
>
>>Mark,
>>If you look at NEC 250.104(C), you'll find that you have to bond
>> structural
>>metal that is "likely to become energized". The phrase "likely to become
>>energized" is not defined, and is up to the AHJ. I would guess most AHJ's
>>would consider the second metal plate to already be bonded since it is
>>electrically continuous with the first metal plate, because they're
>>touching. I also doubt they would consider it "likely to become
>> energized"
>>because you bonded the first metal plate. Just my opinion.
>>
>>-Hans
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
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>>[mailto:re-wrenches-bounces at lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Mark Frye
>>Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 7:29 PM
>>To: RE-wrenches
>>Subject: [RE-wrenches] Grounding - Exposed Metal Part
>>
>>A bare metal plate is connected to a conduit which serves as an equipment
>>ground. The plate is grounded and needs to be grounded because it could
>>become energized both by being contact with the conduit which could
>> become
>>energized and also by coming into contact with the current carrying
>>conductors themselves.
>>
>>A second bare metal plate touches the first plate but could not come into
>>contact with the current carrying conductors.
>>
>>True or false, the second plate does not have to be grounded (bonded to
>> the
>>first plate) because the first plate is already grounded and therefore
>> could
>>not cause the second plate to become energized?
>>
>>Any Code references to support your opinion?
>>
>>P.S. I believe: "false", the second plate must be bonded to the first
>> plate
>>because it may become energized by the first plate regardless of whether
>> or
>>not the first plate is actually grounded, but I can't find references in
>> the
>>Code to support this.
>>
>>Mark Frye
>>Berkeley Solar Electric Systems
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