[RE-wrenches] Honda EU3000i pranks

[John Blittersdorf]

Jeff,
What inverter were you using?  I had a VFX accept a freq from a cheap generator that looked like random noise on my scope meter and it could not even read off the same frequency twice in a row.  As I recall, I was generally seeing higher harmonic numbers.    

John
Cvsolar

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On Apr 5, 2012, at 9:11 PM, Dan Fink <danbob88 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Already been caught on this one. The inverter/charger is a Magnum MME
> with a Honda 3000i.
> Adding a load to the Honda drops the Hz reading in half, but still
> some high harmonic of the real reading, and the Magnum still rejects
> it.
> 
> Glad I didn't spend the $900 on the new honda module now! Didn't take
> the genny to the dealer because the only way to get it there is by
> helicopter.
> 
> Expensive lesson here too; our solution was for the client to purchase
> another honda eu2000i for that site with the Magnum MME and bring the
> 3000i to a different camp that has no inverter/charger by helicopter
> long line sling load. And hey, same price for the new 2000i as for the
> new 3000i module that probably wouldn't have worked!!!
> 
> -- 
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> On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 2:28 PM, Jeff Oldham <starpower4u at juno.com> wrote:
>> I recently had a costly lesson with one of these usually sweet gensets -
>> With a good and fast meter like my Fluke 189 you can get wacky Hz readings.
>> I had one that the inverter would not accept. checked V and Hz and saw the
>> Hz at over 1000. Talked to Honda service center and they confirmed that the
>> genny's inverter module contained ALL control parts and if there is a V, Hz,
>> low power or constant overload it will be this single module. So, $900 later
>> and a quick and easy swap, the problem did not go away and the Hz was still
>> crazy. Talked to service center again, they confirmed that it was the module
>> but could not believe that the new one was defective and asked if I could
>> bring it to them. I did and their meters read 60Hz, all 3 of the meters they
>> had in the shop, put mine on it and over 1000Hz again. Plugged my leads into
>> the shop utility power and it was 60Hz and so it was on a Honda 1000 and
>> 2000, they had another EU3000i in the shop and again I got over 1000. OK, a
>> call into Honda now this time we got a rep that saw this before and said it
>> is normal for this with a very fast meter and ONLY on the EU3000i no other
>> genny they make! Took it back, put the old inverter module back in and still
>> no connection to inverter. Now (perhaps before?) I check his inverter
>> settings, the AC input current was set too high!! UUuurrggg, never had my
>> trusty Fluke live up to its brand name before. So, stuck with an inverter
>> module for a EU3000i with 5 mins. on it, anyone need one contact me off
>> list.
>> 
>> Don't get caught in this one!
>> 
>> 
>> From the Solar, Wind and Hydro powered office of Jeff Oldham/Regenerative
>> SOLutions
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