[RE-wrenches] Perimeter warning lines

[Darryl Thayer]

Hi everybody I am on road and do not have osha book with me, but roofs steeper 
than 4x12 is tie off, fall protection everywhere, roofs 4x12 and less are 
treated like a work platform and tie off is required when with in 6 feet of 
edge.  You can use a positioning belt if it prevents you from going off the 
edge.  A yoyo (retractor) works well, as does a lifee line secured to anchors or 
a cable and traverse line.  


If things permit I offten place a scaffold at lower edge of roof so that it is a 
small step from eve to scaffold with gard rail..  My fall only 10 feet that put 
me in hospital for 10 days, was when I was taking the safety equipment down,  
off an 8x12 pitch there was no excuse, it did not have to happen, I was in a 
hurry and thought I could rmove the gear and walk down to edge and get on 
ladder.  


DT




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From: North Texas Renewable Energy Inc <ntrei at 1scom.net>
To: RE-wrenches <re-wrenches at lists.re-wrenches.org>
Sent: Tue, May 3, 2011 3:44:08 PM
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Perimeter warning lines


The Texas Dept. of Licensing & Regulation [the state electrical, plumbing 
etc licensing authority] has a well known practice of visiting 'random' cities 
permitting departments and requesting a list of current permits. They then make 
un-announced site visits to see if a ME is at the site plus look around for 
other violations or no-nos. I'm sure OSHA, EPA and numerous other regulatory 
agencies do the same. 

My policy is to give the appearance of being as in compliance as possible from 
the ground to give a good impression. Maybe it'll be so hot the inspector won't 
want to get out of the car for a walkaround. 

Jim Duncan
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>From: re-wrenches-bounces at lists.re-wrenches.org 
>[mailto:re-wrenches-bounces at lists.re-wrenches.org]On Behalf Of William Dorsett
>Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 2:27 PM
>To: glenn.burt at glbcc.com; 'RE-wrenches'
>Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Perimeter warning lines
>
>
>Is there a system size at which these OSHA requirements don’t apply?  Or does an 
>installer try to fly under the radar on residential systems? It seems to me this 
>would be a sizable cost factor that would favor small distributed systems over 
>large commercial projects. A friend contracting the paint on a large apartment 
>complex was asked by the inspector if he had given his workers a sheet warning 
>them not to eat the caulk….yummy, burp.
> 
>Bill Dorsett
>Sunwrights
>Manhattan, KS
> 
>From:re-wrenches-bounces at lists.re-wrenches.org 
>[mailto:re-wrenches-bounces at lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Glenn Burt
>Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 5:21 PM
>To: 'RE-wrenches'
>Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Perimeter warning lines
> 
>Be sure to investigate this fully.
>OSHA began requiring us to install warning lines 15’ from the building edges 
>recently… up from the 6’ of days of yore…
>Quite a shock to price fall protection carts and fall restraint systems as 
well!
> 
>Carts to protect persons installing fall restraint systems so work can begin. 
>Carts for those working within 15’ of a building edge…
> 
>-Glenn Burt
> 
>From:re-wrenches-bounces at lists.re-wrenches.org 
>[mailto:re-wrenches-bounces at lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of North Texas 
>Renewable Energy Inc
>Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 12:57 PM
>To: RE-wrenches
>Subject: [RE-wrenches] Perimeter warning lines
> 
> 
>OSHA compliant Wrenches
>we're about to begin aPV installation along the lower edge of a 100 foot long 
>metal building. Because of skylights down the middle of the length of the E-W 
>roof we are forced to mount the southern-most row only about 5 feet from the 20 
>foot high eave. Fortunately the slope is less than 10 degrees but perimeter 
>warning lines are a must here.
>Not wanting to appear a cheapskate here but I'm not surprised at the outrageous 
>cost of "OSHA compliant" perimeter warning flag systems. Your basic fold up 
>standards with nothing more than light-weight bases and multi-colored banner 
>rope runs hundreds of dollars. Even sandbags for ballast are way overpriced.
>So where are the affordable units available or is there such a thing? Better 
>yet, has someone fabricated their own pro-looking standards and used the same 
>off-the-shelf banner rope used in the roofing catalogs? I already have several 
>hundred feet of banner rope just nothing to hang it from. 
>
>thanks as always
>Jim Duncan
>North Texas Renewable Energy
>NABCEP Certified Solar PV
>Installer No.031310-57
>TECL 27398
>ntrei at 1scom.net 
>817.917.0527
>www.ntrei.com
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