[RE-wrenches] AC coupled GT Sunny Island w Enphase; string optimizers
Kelly Keilwitz, Whidbey Sun & Wind
kelly at whidbeysunwind.com
Tue Feb 1 10:05:58 PST 2011
Wrenches,
Here's an update on this configuration (20kW Enphase, AC coupled to
Sunny Islands) you should know about:
Enphase will not support and warranty the use of their micro inverters
in an AC-coupled installation with battery-based inverters. Enphase
approved this verbally with us in design, but balked when we asked
them to back it up in writing. Their issue/point is that AC-coupling
violates the UL1741 listing.
Thus, we're revising the design to use Sunny Boy string inverters. Our
customer would still like the module-level monitoring and optimization
offered by the micro-inverters (there is some shading issue), so we're
considering using string optimizers. We have not used string-
optimization, yet. It looks like the leading options are Solar Magic
and Tigo.
Any preferences, cautions, or advice with choosing and using
optimizers would be appreciated.
Thanks,
-Kelly
Kelly Keilwitz, P.E.
Principal
Whidbey Sun & Wind
Renewable Energy Systems
NABCEP Certified PV Installer
WA Electrical Administrator
987 Wanamaker Rd.
Coupeville, WA 98239
kelly at whidbeysunwind.com
PH & FAX: 360.678.7131
On Jan 13, 2011, at 7:33 PM, Kelly Keilwitz, Whidbey Sun & Wind wrote:
> Wrenches,
> We are including 2 Sunny Island inverters into a previously battery-
> less grid tied design utilizing 20 kW of PV on Enphase micro
> inverters and 2 SMA Windy Boy 6000 inverters (10 kW XZERES 442
> turbine). Our customer wishes to run his fuel generator as little as
> possible when the grid goes down. Nothing is in the power room yet,
> the house is under construction. Only the wind turbine is installed.
>
> With a pass-through limit of 56A, the two Sunny Islands cannot
> conduct the combined RE production to the grid. There is not enough
> critical load demand to justify two more SI's, nor is there space
> for them. Our plan is to connect the micro-inverters (84A, peak)
> directly to the main service (grid) in normal mode, switching to the
> critical load panel (SI AC output) when the grid goes down. The
> Windy Boys (56A) would remain connected to the critical load panel.
>
> I'm hoping that the frequency shifting control of the Windy Boys
> from the SI's will allow the PV micro inverters to connect and stay
> connected to the SI's while there is demand on the critical loads
> and the batteries are charging. When there is more PV output than
> load demand we expect that the SI frequency will rise to the point
> where the micros will go out of spec and disconnect, maybe in a
> nicely staggered pattern.
>
> Questions:
>
> 1. Has anyone experience with this much grid-direct RE capacity and/
> or micro-inverters AC coupled to Sunny Islands? I'm a little scared
> by a previous post from Darryl wherein he found that the RE capacity
> from the GD inverters should be 1/2 that of the battery-based
> inverters in an AC coupled system. Please let me know if you are
> certain that this is not going to work!
>
> 2. Any experience with specifying a contactor/relay to switch the PV
> output? The contactor will be controlled by one of the SI relays.
> Switching from the main panel (grid) to the critical load panel will
> be during a grid outage, so doesn't need to be load-rated, but
> switching back after the grid comes back up could be load-break. Our
> current solution is to use two 80A contactors from Schneider
> (#LC1D80G7) with an intertie kit.
>
> 3. Any suggestions for an inverter bypass (service disconnect) for
> the two SI's? We're considering either a monster 2P2T 200A switch
> (100 A would do), or using a gen-transfer type panel for the
> critical loads.
>
> Comments and informed opinions quite welcome.
>
> Thanks,
> -Kelly
>
> Kelly Keilwitz, P.E.
> Principal
> Whidbey Sun & Wind
> Renewable Energy Systems
> kelly at whidbeysunwind.com
> PH & FAX: 360.678.7131
> NABCEP Certified PV Installer
> WA Electrical Administrator
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