[RE-wrenches] Underwater wire

Kristopher Schmid solman at legacysolar.com
Fri Jun 10 11:12:08 PDT 2011


Thanks for the input, all!  I can't wade to dive into this project, now.

On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 8:53 AM, Max Balchowsky <max at seesolar.com> wrote:

> Kris, I worked traffic signal systems for years, we spliced conductors in
> pull boxes that fill with water on a regular regular basis. There are
> products available that are rated for waterproofing connections and the
> THWN-2 is rated for wet locations, but I don't know about submersed
> locations.
>
> Max Balchowsky
> Design Engineer
> SEE Systems
> 1048 Irvine Ave Suite 217
> Newport Beach, Ca. 92660
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> *From:* Allan Sindelar <allan at positiveenergysolar.com>
> *To:* re-wrenches at lists.re-wrenches.org
> *Sent:* Thu, June 9, 2011 6:48:32 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] Underwater wire
>
> Kris,
> I don't know a Code-compliant solution, having not faced this. But I'll
> suggest that you not attempt to glue and seal conduit to keep the conductors
> dry, as it won't work permanently. Use wet-rated wire, expecting any conduit
> to provide only physical protection. THWN is wet-rated - that's the W. You
> might consider submersible pump cable also.
> Allan
>
>  *Allan Sindelar*
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>
> On 6/9/2011 7:31 PM, Jesse Dahl wrote:
>
> There utility companies up here in northern MN bring power to islands all the time. The have cable underwater. Maybe contact Minnesota Power....
>
> Jesse
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Jun 9, 2011, at 3:48 PM, Nathan Jones <solardude97 at yahoo.com> <solardude97 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>  Kris,
> We work on boat docks on army corps of engineer lakes frequently and they have wire in direct contact with water everywhere. The lakes here are flood control and fluctuate a lot, like 50 feet in a given year. The marinas are dragging the feeder wires all over the place on rocky bottoms. We kill very few people with this insane practice but as the feeder wires age I believe the fatalities will increase. This is ground referenced service in fresh water with poor conducting capability in the water. Very dangerous yet allowed.
> Your situation would be quite safe IMHO as there would be no stressing of the delivery system.
> Nathan Jones
> Power Source Solar
> 417-827-0738
>
> On Thu Jun 9th, 2011 2:30 PM CDT Kristopher Schmid wrote:
>
>  I have an installation that is a ground mount on a berm with a man-made pond
> between the array and the BOS.  The pond is about 4 feet deep.  How would
> you wrenches make this run? in weighted conduit with primer and glued
> joints? use boring and go under? out of conduit with wire directly in the
> water?
>
> Does code have anything to say about this specifically?
>
> Thanks as always.
>
> --
> Thanks,
> Kris Schmid
>
> Legacy Solar, LLC
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Thanks,
Kris Schmid

Legacy Solar, LLC
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