Thanks for the input, all!  I can't wade to dive into this project, now.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 8:53 AM, Max Balchowsky <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:max@seesolar.com">max@seesolar.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:8pt"><font size="3">Kris, I</font> <font size="3">worked traffic signal systems for years, we spliced conductors in pull boxes that fill with water on a regular regular basis. There are products available that are rated for waterproofing connections and the THWN-2 is rated for wet locations</font><font size="3">, but I don't know about submersed locations.</font><br>
<div> </div><font size="3"><span style="font-family:tahoma,new york,times,serif">Max Balchowsky</span><br style="font-family:tahoma,new york,times,serif"><span style="font-family:tahoma,new york,times,serif">Design Engineer</span><br style="font-family:tahoma,new york,times,serif">
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> <a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a><br><b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Thu, June 9, 2011 6:48:32 PM<br>
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    Kris,<br>
    I don't know a Code-compliant solution, having not faced this. But
    I'll suggest that you not attempt to glue and seal conduit to keep
    the conductors dry, as it won't work permanently. Use wet-rated
    wire, expecting any conduit to provide only physical protection.
    THWN is wet-rated - that's the W. You might consider submersible
    pump cable also.<br>
    Allan<br>
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      <pre>There utility companies up here in northern MN bring power to islands all the time. The have cable underwater. Maybe contact Minnesota Power....<br><br>Jesse<br><br>Sent from my iPhone<br><br>On Jun 9, 2011, at 3:48 PM, Nathan Jones <a rel="nofollow" href="mailto:solardude97@yahoo.com" target="_blank"><solardude97@yahoo.com></a> wrote:<br>
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        <pre>Kris,<br>We work on boat docks on army corps of engineer lakes frequently and they have wire in direct contact with water everywhere. The lakes here are flood control and fluctuate a lot, like 50 feet in a given year. The marinas are dragging the feeder wires all over the place on rocky bottoms. We kill very few people with this insane practice but as the feeder wires age I believe the fatalities will increase. This is ground referenced service in fresh water with poor conducting capability in the water. Very dangerous yet allowed.<br>
Your situation would be quite safe IMHO as there would be no stressing of the delivery system.<br>Nathan Jones<br>Power Source Solar<br><a href="tel:417-827-0738" value="+14178270738" target="_blank">417-827-0738</a><br><br>
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          <pre>I have an installation that is a ground mount on a berm with a man-made pond<br>between the array and the BOS.  The pond is about 4 feet deep.  How would<br>you wrenches make this run? in weighted conduit with primer and glued<br>
joints? use boring and go under? out of conduit with wire directly in the<br>water?<br><br>Does code have anything to say about this specifically?<br><br>Thanks as always.<br><br>-- <br>Thanks,<br>Kris Schmid<br><br>Legacy Solar, LLC<br>
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