[RE-wrenches] VAWT recommendation

Kelly Keilwitz, Whidbey Sun & Wind kelly at whidbeysunwind.com
Wed Oct 20 16:17:51 PDT 2010


Hi Dan,
Project done been touched - we're committed to putting up something  
with an upright axis in the wind....

Do you have any info about Urban Green Energy? Fellow we've been  
talking with in NY is Ryan Gilchrist.

I've always thought it would be interesting if a client absolutely  
insisted on VAWT's, no matter what I said, and we wouldn't be held  
accountable for not dissuading them. The GC on this project has  
offered to buy the turbines and carry the manufacturer's warranty with  
the Navy, with us just responsible for the installation. I don't know  
if it can get better than that. Monitoring and everything.

I just need to decide whether to give up the material sale. If we  
managed to find a VAWT that could endure, and have a reasonable output  
(it helps to get an additional 12¢/kWh for production over net  
metering in WA), we have several customers who would be interested,  
even when fully informed about the low ROI compared to PV. These folks  
just want to see SOME benefit to our long, windy winters and don't  
have the moxy or money to put a VAWT up high. The turbine - and  
company - just gotta last awhile.

Thanks,
-Kelly

Kelly Keilwitz, P.E.
Whidbey Sun & Wind
Renewable Energy Systems
NABCEP Certified PV Installer
kelly at whidbeysunwind.com
360.678.7131


On Oct 20, 2010, at 2:16 PM, Dan Fink wrote:

> Kelly;
>
> I would insist on a years worth of actual wind speed versus energy  
> output data performed by an unaffiliated third party, before even  
> touching this project with a 10-foot gin pole.
>
> DAN FINK
> Buckville Energy Consulting LLC
>
> Kelly Keilwitz, Whidbey Sun & Wind wrote:
>> Wind wrenches,
>> We have a subcontract to install 30kW of VAWT, along with 30kW of  
>> PV for the Navy. The Navy specified Helix Wind turbines, and is  
>> adamant on sticking with VAWTs, although they may accept an  
>> alternative. The GC we are working under is sufficiently scared of  
>> Helix to look for a viable alternative. Are there any?!
>> The GC has done some research and wants to use the UGE-4K from  
>> Urban Green Energy http://www.urbangreenenergy.com
>> It's an H-style lift machine that appears to have several European  
>> certifications on safety, power performance, noise, and vibration.
>> Anyone know anything about these turbines or company? UGE's address  
>> is NY. Roy?
>> Thanks,
>> -Kelly
>> Kelly Keilwitz, P.E.
>> Whidbey Sun & Wind
>> Renewable Energy Systems
>> kelly at whidbeysunwind.com
>> 360-678-7131
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