[RE-wrenches] Inverter AM Interference - The Basics

Larry Crutcher, Starlight Solar larry at starlightsolar.com
Thu Jul 16 12:01:07 PDT 2009


Excellent Dan! The first thing I would do in most cases is your #5.  
Increasing the RF signal to the receiver will usually overcome the  
relatively low level RFI. As an amateur operator (KB5HMU) I sometimes  
have to deal with close RFI at 160 meters, 1.8 to 2kHz. I have a  
tunable dipole with preamp and simply tuning the preamp to the  
frequency, which increases gain, the RFI can be eliminated. So try  
improving the AM reception first. For sure it will make an improvement.

Larry

On Jul 16, 2009, at 12:02 PM, Exeltech wrote:

>
> Interference from inverters will always be an issue.  It's a  
> difficult topic for many to understand .. and equally difficult to  
> reduce.  Note you can reduce .. but not eliminate the interference.
>
> To complicate things, the farther a radio is from the transmitter,  
> the more difficult this issue will be to resolve.
>
> Here's why...
>
> To achieve the highest efficiency possible, inverter power circuits  
> today transition from off to on in an extremely short time, as in  
> totally off to totally on in microseconds .. or even nanoseconds.   
> Internally, within the inverter, even "sine" wave models use square  
> waves at various points.  Why?  Solid state devices operate with the  
> least energy loss when they're completely off .. or turned on in a  
> strongly "saturated" mode - meaning turned on to their maximum  
> possible level with the least possible resistance.  The transition  
> from off to on is commonly done in one step, from zero to max ..  
> then back again.
>
> Micro-processor clocks also operate in this fashion, as do the  
> signals within the processor, and any related communications circuits.
>
> Square waves are a composite of a sine wave, plus all odd harmonics  
> (odd integer multiples) of the original sine wave frequency.  To  
> create a 100 kHz square wave, we start with a 100 kHz sine wave and  
> add sine waves of 300 kHz, 500 kHz, 700 kHz .. and so forth, up into  
> the many Mhz region.  The number of harmonics added is astonishing.
>
> As a consequence, these harmonics radiate into the AM broadcast  
> band .. and far beyond.  To make matters worse, the circuits in  
> inverters are not "linear", which is to say they don't faithfully  
> reproduce the exact waveform put into them.  It's done by intent,  
> but with a side-effect.  This non-linearity turns the circuits into  
> "mixers".  Mixers are a part of every radio and television.  We use  
> mixer circuits to combine two frequencies and obtain others.  When  
> non-linear circuits are fed a large number of signals, they add and  
> subtract all the various combinations of signals to create still  
> other frequencies .. and so it goes.
>
> Radio frequency interference ("RFI") originates from many different  
> aspects of an inverter.  If the inverter is battery-based, you'll  
> have many hundreds of amps being switched on and off very rapidly by  
> the inverter "front end".  To handle the hundreds of amps, the input  
> resistance ("impedance") of the inverter must be very low .. on the  
> order of a few milliohms.
>
> String inverters connected to a series array of PV operate on the  
> same principals, but at lower currents and higher voltages than  
> their battery-based counterparts.
>
> RFI filters work on the basis of a voltage divider, posing a very  
> high impedance to the interference (blocking it), but a very low  
> impedance to the DC that must flow, minimizing loss at DC.  This is  
> a very difficult challenge due to the high amperages involved.
>
> The same is true of inverter AC output circuits.  AC output is more  
> easily addressed because the current is much lower than the DC input  
> (battery based systems only).  Conversely, inverters connect to AC  
> circuits in the home, turning every inch of the house wiring into an  
> antenna that radiates the interference.
>
> As mentioned earlier in this thread, it's best to reduce the  
> interference at the source - in this case, the inverter.
>
> First step is to try to determine where the bulk of the interference  
> is originating.  The DC leads?  AC leads?  Inverter case?  All the  
> above?  Each has its own set of possible steps to reduce RFI.  Leads  
> are the most likely culprit.  A battery-operated shortwave radio  
> with a signal strength indicator can be an invaluable tool here.  If  
> you have one, you're ahead of the game.  If you consider buying  
> one .. ensure it also receives the AM broadcast band.  Most do.
>
>
> Basic rules:
>
> 1) Keep the DC leads from the battery to the inverter as short as  
> practicable.
>
>
> 2) Twist the DC leads together if possible.  If not possible, keep  
> them as close together as you can.  The goal is to have the RFI  
> magnetic energy from each lead cancel the RFI magnetic energy in the  
> other.  As was also pointed out, it may be helpful to run each DC  
> leg in metal conduit and then GROUND the conduit to an earth ground  
> - the shorter the better.  Failure to ground the conduit will simply  
> turn the conduit into another antenna.  An RFI ground is separate  
> from the earth "protective" ground.  If you use the AC "ground", it  
> too becomes an antenna unless it's kept short, and you've got a good  
> connection to the grounding electrode conductor with highly  
> conductive earth.  It's tough to achieve all three together, but it  
> can be done in some locations.
>
> Someone suggested a "filter capacitor" be connected across the DC  
> leads.  This won't hurt, but isn't likely to be effective given the  
> very low impedance of inverter input circuits.
>
>
> 3) Ferrite cores may be slipped over the length of each cable, and  
> placed at the point where the cables exit the inverter.  Toroid  
> cores or similar may be of help, but you'll need many of them, and  
> they'll need to extend at least two to three feet starting at the  
> inverter.  More is better, and keep in mind .. when many are used ..  
> they're heavy.
>
> Do not install them at the battery end.  Installing at the battery  
> end, and leaving some cable exposed at the inverter allows the  
> exposed conductors at the inverter to act as antennas.
>
> Select the proper type of ferrite.  Surprisingly, various  
> formulations of ferrite react differently depending on the frequency  
> range in which they're used.  For example, some ferrites are good  
> for 100-500 Mhz, and would not do a good job blocking RFI that  
> interferes with AM radio.  For AM radio RFI, select ferrite that's  
> rated to work from 250 kHz up to 2 Mhz or more.
>
>
> 4) AC EMI/RFI filters are also available, and may be installed on  
> the AC output circuit at the inverter.  These are made by Corcom,  
> Tyco, and others.  Select a unit rated for the output voltage AND  
> current of the inverter.  RFI filters will be UL/ETL/CSA  
> recognized.  If you find some that aren't .. don't buy them.
>
>
> 5) As was suggested, a radio with external antenna may help,  
> especially if the antenna is fed with coaxial cable, which can act  
> as a shield until the cable is well away from the house and/or  
> inverter.  Keep the radio antenna as far from the inverter and house  
> wiring as you can.
>
>
> 6) A battery-operated radio is also an option.  This too was  
> mentioned earlier in this thread.  Even well-filtered inverter AC  
> output always carries with it some level of interference.  A weak  
> radio signal will still be affected by a weak source of interference.
>
>
> 7) Ground the inverter housing in accordance with the manufacturer's  
> instructions.  All inverters today are required to meet certain  
> levels of FCC interference criteria.  Actions of internal RFI  
> filtering circuits may be improved if the inverter is properly  
> grounded.
>
>
> 8) Ever drive into a parking garage while listening to the radio,  
> and the radio station gets very weak or disappears altogether??   
> Same thing happens when we drive through long highway tunnels.
>
> We can make use of that trait.  It's caused by the reinforcing steel  
> bars ("re-bar") acting to block the radio signals from getting to  
> the antenna on your vehicle.  The same characteristic that keeps  
> signals from getting to your radio, also works to keep interference  
> IN.
>
> In addition to all the above, you may have to construct a screen  
> around the entire inverter, then connect the screen itself to earth  
> ground.  This screen should NOT come into contact with the inverter  
> housing.  To do so would defeat the purpose of the screen.  However,  
> properly filtered DC and AC leads may pass through it.
>
> In this case, you'll be constructing a "Faraday shield", which will  
> keep interference inside.  Surprisingly, this can be ferrous or non- 
> ferrous metal.  I'd recommend ferrous (such as chicken wire with  
> small openings), for ease of soldering.  Build a "box" around the  
> inverter, including the back of the inverter.  To do this, you'll  
> need a board or other means to keep the inverter enclosure from  
> contacting the wire.
>
> Once you've constructed the box .. connect the box to its own "RFI"  
> earth ground.  This will be similar to a standard protective ground.
>
> Next, add a bond wire from the RFI ground to the system protective  
> earth for the system.  This RFI-ground to safety ground bond wire  
> should be outside if you can .. and buried in the soil if at all  
> possible.  Adding this bond wire avoids opportunity for AC ground  
> loops or other issues.  Keeping it in the soil also slightly reduces  
> the opportunity it will become an antenna for the interference.  If  
> all the above are done properly, they won't impact the effectiveness  
> of the box you've just constructed.
>
>
> Reducing radio frequency interference is, at best, a snipe hunt.   
> The strength of the radio/TV station signal itself can and will  
> vary, and is dependant on a variety of variables.  This can give the  
> impression something you've done had an effect on the interference  
> level from the inverter, where in fact you didn't change a thing.   
> The weaker the radio signal, the more difficult it will be to reduce  
> the interference from the inverter to make the radio signal  
> listenable.
>
>
> The best thing to do is keep the inverter and all of its wiring as  
> far from the radios as you can.  If this simply isn't possible ..  
> see steps 1-8.
>
> I wish you well.
>
>
> Dan Lepinski
> Sr. Engineer
> Exeltech
>
>
> Hunting and smothering RFI for more than 40 years ...
>
>
>
>
>
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