[RE-wrenches] DR>FX Compatibility Problem, Magnum inverters

Larry Crutcher, Starlight Solar larry at starlightsolar.com
Fri Jun 19 20:11:09 PDT 2009


Yes. I thought of that so we turned on a few hundred watts. Same  
problem. The Splindide power board is causing the issue. I tried RF  
filtering, twisting inverter leads, EMI AC filter. Nothing would work.  
It's really weird that a cheap import inverter would operate it.

Larry

On Jun 18, 2009, at 8:49 PM, jay peltz wrote:

> Hi Larry,
>
> Did this occur even if there were other loads on?
>
> jay
>
> peltz power
> On Jun 18, 2009, at 7:39 PM, Larry Crutcher, Starlight Solar wrote:
>
>> Hi Jeff,
>>
>> I am not sure if this relates to your issue but there is an issue  
>> with Magnum inverters and Splindide washers. Splindide will not  
>> work on a Magnum sine wave. They are aware of this. Here is a copy  
>> of my old post to the list:
>>
>> ....I have a recent power issue come up with a Magnum inverter. A  
>> customer tried to operate her Splindide washer/dryer but the motor  
>> would not start. I looked at the waveform with a scope and RMS  
>> voltage and frequency were fine. The waveform looked good until the  
>> motor tried to start. The washer was putting a jagged noise riding  
>> on the sine wave. The voltage and waveform still looked OK other  
>> than the noise. I was mostly sure that this was the cause so I  
>> grabbed a 600 watt cheap import sine wave inverter and connected  
>> the washer. Same ripple was present on the waveform but the $400  
>> inverter would run the washer motor fine. It also runs fine with a  
>> 1600 watt Honda inverter/generator.
>>
>>
>> Larry Crutcher
>> Starlight Solar
>> (928) 941-1660
>> Renewable Energy Products, Service and Installation
>>
>> On Jun 18, 2009, at 4:44 PM, Jeff Oldham wrote:
>>
>>> Not sure if anyone offered this already - The DR will do a 5 sec.  
>>> surge to 6200W the Outback will do a 5 sec. surge to 4800W. This  
>>> is common, most mod's will surge considerable more than Sine's,  
>>> that is the big trade off other than power quality and tare  
>>> losses. In addition I'm very skeptical that the Staber only surges  
>>> to 11A, have you measured the actual surge? When I replaced my  
>>> good 'ol Trace 2512 (too many appliances disliked the mod. sine)  
>>> and went to a Magnum 2812 my washer would kick it out as my washer  
>>> surged to 31A and the Mag. would do 30! This is a modern Horz.  
>>> axis machine. I now have the Magnum and a new Vanner ITC 12-3200W  
>>> that does a 3 sec. surge to 6400W and will even run my wire welder  
>>> and air compressor, both used to be genny only loads.
>>>
>>> -jeff o
>>>
>>>
>>> From the Solar, Wind and Hydro powered office of Jeff Oldham/ 
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