[RE-wrenches] List etiquette

[Tump]

I wrote this & deleted it,thought I would let this one go but I see that
others got a similar hit on this as I did.

I agree there is no stupid question BUT as a "Lead Installer" the
information was available in the book. Perhaps Bob O's frustration was Not
in the question but the lack of research w/ the tools we all should have in
hand. Battery based systems are NOT discussed very thoroughly in the code
book. These systems can be quite complex AND dangerous to those folks
untrained. 

Please don't ever hesitate to ask questions but look before you leap. I
agree that the industry is being swamped w/ newbie & I loose jobs to those
less then qualified then myself, YEAH I GET pissed! I have worked LONG &
HARD learning things without the benefit of the re/list. Some of it by trial
& error other times by looking in the books until I find what I was looking
for. 

These trenches are quite deep for us older grumpy techs!   Tump

-----Original Message-----
From: re-wrenches-bounces at lists.re-wrenches.org
[mailto:re-wrenches-bounces at lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of William
Miller
Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 3:21 AM
To: RE-wrenches
Subject: [RE-wrenches] List etiquette


Friends:

I admit I have been guilty of writing a harsh word on this site.  I don't
defend the practice, but it is trying when one hears of supposedly
experienced contractors making very dangerous mistakes.

It is not difficult to learn a lot about any installer in this internet age.
You can look up a contractor's license status on the licensing board web
site (if they have a license).  You can review their company web site, read
how experienced they are and see that they have a top-notch crew.  You can
go back to the contractor's license site and see that they have certified
that they are not running a crew so they don't have to pay worker's comp
insurance.  All of those youngsters on the roof must be "independent
contractors."

It is frustrating to compete against cut-rate contractors when you have paid
your dues and are paying the cost to be legitimate.  I make a fairly good
living repairing the work of other solar electric contractors.  I see them
abuse retirees something fierce.  I wish there were some way to get those
people back the money they have spent on disreputable installers, but it is
expensive to go to court.

We have to let a lot of work go because we are underbid by less experienced
installers.  Many electrical contractors and out-of-work used car
salespeople are getting into the solar electric business lately, because,
how hard can it really be?

William Miller

 


Please note new e-mail address and domain:

William Miller 
Miller Solar
Voice :805-438-5600     Fax: 805-438-4607       
email: william at millersolar.com
http://millersolar.com <http://millersolar.com/> 
License No. C-10-773985


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