[RE-wrenches] Beat your local AHJ's over the headif youhave to...

[Joel Davidson]

Bill,

This is good news. Standardized permit packages and national interconnection 
standards that make Better-Faster-Cheaper PV will make clean, renewable 
distributed generation as ubiquitous as air conditioning became after WWII. 
See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_conditioning

Joel Davidson

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bill Brooks" <billbrooks7 at yahoo.com>
To: "'RE-wrenches'" <re-wrenches at lists.re-wrenches.org>
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 5:03 PM
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> Joel,
>
> Both the documents you sited have gone into the development of the new
> version, but there are substantial changes (hopefully improvements). The
> process will look similar to what you have below, but a little simpler. I
> get rid of many calculations for things like ampacity, since the
> calculations can be summarized by wire sizes. I think you will like it.
>
> It's tough to develop something that will work nationwide, but I've been
> working on it for 5 years now and I think we're close.
>
> Bill.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: re-wrenches-bounces at lists.re-wrenches.org
> [mailto:re-wrenches-bounces at lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Joel
> Davidson
> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 6:23 PM
> To: RE-wrenches
> Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Beat your local AHJ's over the head if youhave
> to...
>
> Hi Bill,
>
> Will the standard permit package be the drawings and checklist in the
> Inspector Guidelines
> http://www.irecusa.org/fileadmin/user_upload/NationalOutreachPubs/InspectorG
> uidelines-Version2.1.pdf
> or the drawing at
> http://solarabcs.net/index.php?option=com_docman&task=doc_download&gid=137&&
> Itemid=72
>
> It would be very useful to have a national standard for permit packages 
> for
> both residential and commercial PV systems. Something like:
> Cover Sheet
> Table of Contents
> General Description
> Site Plan
> Roof Plan
> One-Line Electrical Diagram
> Equipment Layout Drawing
> Wire and Conduit Calculations
> Component Specifications Sheets.
>
> Of course, some projects will require more documentation, but a 
> standardized
>
> permit package would eliminate a lot of Building & Safety Departments'
> ambiguous subjectivity.
>
> Best regards,
> Joel Davidson
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Bill Brooks" <billbrooks7 at yahoo.com>
> To: "'RE-wrenches'" <re-wrenches at lists.re-wrenches.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 3:58 PM
> Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Beat your local AHJ's over the head if youhave
> to...
>
>
>> Ryan and Matt,
>>
>> There are significant efforts underway to standardize permitting. Too 
>> many
>> efforts are going on that will cause a proliferation of different ideas,
>> rather than standardization. The ICC Tri-Chapter document is good, as it
>> is
>> based on the SMUD document, but it falls significantly short of providing
>> standardization. It has the all-encompassing statement, "8) The
>> installation
>> of the PV system shall conform to the requirements of CEC Article 690 and
>> any other applicable articles or standards." That makes this document 
>> very
>> nearly worthless since it is not specific.
>>
>> Solar ABCS (URL www.solarabcs.org) has commissioned me to develop an
>> Expedited Permitting process that brings together the best of what has
>> been
>> done up to now. These efforts include not only the ICC Tri-Chapter work,
>> but
>> also SolarTech, my Inspector Guidelines, and John Wiles checklist. The
>> basis
>> is to have a process whereby a jurisdiction could do an over-the-counter
>> permit for single-phase, residential-sized, PV systems. This is the real
>> need in the PV industry. There are similar needs in the SDHW market.
>>
>> The draft of this document will be available very soon. It will be going
>> out
>> for internal review to a few folks this week. The draft version will be
>> available for comment within a month. The key to this document is a
>> standardized electrical diagram. This also makes the process easier to
>> accommodate an on-line permit submittal process.
>>
>> Bill.
>>
>
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