[RE-wrenches] Cost per kW of MW+ installs, solar and wind

Sat Feb 14 18:07:11 PST 2009

$10/W DC is the high average price (not cost) for 3 to 5 kW residential 
batteryless grid-tied PV systems. $7.50/W is the medium average price for 1 
MW commercial ground mounted fixed mount or single-axis tracking array PV 
systems. What is the $1,000,000/MW for?

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "ASAP POWER! 2" <info at asappower.com>
To: "'RE-wrenches'" <re-wrenches at lists.re-wrenches.org>
Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 11:51 AM
Subject: [RE-wrenches] Cost per kW of MW+ installs, solar and wind

> Yes, that's right.  I think it still is...
> Pardon if my question to you came off as something more than general.  Not
> to meant to challenge.
> Let me put it another way.  I've heard a couple of PPA providers tell me 
> to
> plan on having $1M dollars in the project budget per MW of PV you want to
> connect to the grid.  Would you agree?
>
> Still curious about WA state feed-in tariff, just wondering if any 
> wrenches
> in Washington know about it.
>
> Roger, have you been involved with wind power/wind farms in this range? 
> If
> so, what are the costs/kw to get on grid you see there?   And also 
> curious:
> what are the acres involved per MW in average wind farms?
>
> Peter D.
> "Not everything that can be counted, counts."
> Al Einstein
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joel Davidson [mailto:joel.davidson at sbcglobal.net]
> Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 10:57 AM
> To: info at asappower.com; RE-wrenches
> Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Cost per kW of a 2 mega watt installation
>
> I thought this was just a general question, not a cost/price discussion.
>
> Joel Davidson
> "It's not so important that you understand me; just don't misunderstand 
> me."
>
> Bucky Fuller
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "ASAP POWER! 2" <info at asappower.com>
> To: "'RE-wrenches'" <re-wrenches at lists.re-wrenches.org>
> Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 10:00 AM
> Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Cost per kW of a 2 mega watt installation
>
>
>> Really?  I would think the word would be INcluding.  Joel, can you say
>> "$1M
>> per MW" for grid connection work alone like most everyone in the
>> utility-scale biz??  This adds at least $1/Wp taking up time/man-hour
>> costs,
>> feasibility/system impact studies with the IOU, WECC, WREGIS, CAISO, and
>> all
>> costs related to getting to the point of the on-the-grid queue-in and PV
>> kwh's being counted and paid for.  If you've got re-conductoring or new
>> lines going on for anything over half a mile, might think about $2 to
>> $3/Wp
>> additional to base of $4 to $6.5/watt all EPC/turnkey, plus the $1/watt
>> grid
>> connection costs.  MW+ system size switchgear/transformers, etal ain't
>> cheap
>> either.
>>
>> By the way, anyone know more about WA state's FIT?
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: re-wrenches-bounces at lists.re-wrenches.org
>> [mailto:re-wrenches-bounces at lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Joel
>> Davidson
>> Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 6:46 PM
>> To: RE-wrenches
>> Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Cost per kW of a 2 mega watt installation
>>
>> Approx 6 acres for a 1 MW fixed ground mount crystalline array including
>> fence and inside access roads. Price excluding fence, road work, cable
>> trenching, and grid connection approx $7.50/W DC.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "ASAP POWER! 2" <info at asappower.com>
>> To: "'RE-wrenches'" <re-wrenches at lists.re-wrenches.org>
>> Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 12:29 AM
>> Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Cost per kW of a 2 mega watt installation
>>
>>
>>> Both area and cost per kw are going to depend on the PV technology
>>> platform
>>> and the type of mounting.  Are you talking crystalline modules or
>>> thin-film
>>> modules?   Fixed tilt or tracking?   If tracking, unless known metrics
>>> already, you just gotta work it out with whatever you're working with.
>>>
>>> I recently fit 3.9MW of a large thin-film module on fixed tilt on 29.9
>>> acres, scheduled to come in below $4.00/W.
>>> For crystalline, as a very general rule of thumb, I would say .6 the 
>>> area
>>> and 1.5 the cost?
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: re-wrenches-bounces at lists.re-wrenches.org
>>> [mailto:re-wrenches-bounces at lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of roger
>>> dixon
>>> Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 7:07 AM
>>> To: tump at hughes.net; 'RE-wrenches'
>>> Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Cost per kW of a 2 mega watt installation
>>>
>>> Did you ever get a response to this post?  If so, would you mind sharing
>>> it/them with me?  I am also trying to get a handle on how much
>>> ground/acreage a 1MW or 2MW solar installation would use.  Any idea?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Roger Dixon
>>> Certified Wind Site Assessor
>>> Skylands Renewable Energy, LLC
>>> 908.337.2057 cell
>>> 908.730.6474 fax
>>> roger.dixon at att.net
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: re-wrenches-bounces at lists.re-wrenches.org
>>> [mailto:re-wrenches-bounces at lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of
>>> tump at hughes.net
>>> Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 8:39 PM
>>> To: RE-wrenches
>>> Subject: [RE-wrenches] Cost per kW of a 2 mega watt installation
>>>
>>> Can anyone out there give me this info or have a site that I can get
>>> these
>>> figures. How about the area required for a project of this size?  Thanks
>>> in
>>> advance. Tump Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
>>
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