[RE-wrenches] steel pipe is Steel Pipe, NOT

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Steel pipe IS NOT necessarily steel pipe! There is steel tube & that is
welded & there IS steel pipe that is extruded. 
Your steel supplier makes more $$$ selling you tube that is sold as pipe.
They are similar but not the same!

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[mailto:re-wrenches-bounces at lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Aram
Alexander
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 12:25 PM
To: RE-wrenches; ryan at solar4maine.com
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] dpw top of pole mount pipe problems
Importance: High


Hey guys I do a lot of ground mounts, and Top Of Pole is one of our main 
type of installs.... DP& W our top of the line products, but they are only 
warranting the RACK, they are suggesting the footing and pole size.... YOU 
should always get a LOCAL engineer to engineer the Pole size and footing 
depth and size...

We use Sch 80 when it calls for Sch 40, and steel pipe is Steel Pipe....I 
would NOT install that on Cast Iron...!!!!

By the way does this job have a permit ? are there plans ? has anyone 
contacted an engineer ? I am confused here, it seems the cart is before the 
horse....
Site visit, plans, design with engineering then we get a permit, The most 
important thing here is to Follow the Permitted Engineered set of Plans....

Just my 2 cents...
Aram
www.aramsolar.com


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From: <penobscotsolar at midmaine.com>
To: <ryan at solar4maine.com>; "RE-wrenches" 
<re-wrenches at lists.re-wrenches.org>
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 9:10 AM
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] dpw top of pole mount pipe problems


> Ryan,
>   I would be very wary. If DP&W says it is engineered for Sched.40 
> steel then that is what it is most likely warrantied for. I don't do 
> anything that would void a manufacturers warranty. After 21 years in 
> this business it is one of the most important things I've learned. If 
> DP&W will warranty it the way it is, then it is on them at that point. 
> Good luck, Daryl DeJoy
> NABCEP Certified PV installer
> Penobscot Solar Design
>
>
>
>> Wrenches i have a customer that wanted to install a dpw top of pole 
>> mount for 18 sharp 180 watt panels. he installed his own pipe and 
>> even after several reminders by me and a signed contract stating 
>> shcedule 80 8 inch steel pipe he installed a 8 inch cast iron water 
>> main.
>>
>> My dilemma is this he claims to wave my liability in this install but 
>> he has been a very high maintnence customer and seems to forget 
>> everything we talk about or he signs. so would you go ahead with the 
>> install or is the cast iron going to shear off and the rack fall 
>> over?
>>
>> financially i have met my obligations with the customer i can wave 
>> the labor cost and tell him to find someone else at this point if 
>> need be i dont want to be liable for spilling 18 panels on the ground 
>> and my insurance wouldnt cover it as we went against dpw's 
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