[RE-wrenches] solar order scams

[robert ellison]

I get them looking for engine rebuild kits as well as solar. If you run the
phone contacts or addresses in a google search you get nowhere or at least
not anywhere that would be logical.

If you do send a response you will get no logical answers to your questions.
 Sometimes when things are slow at the moment I do that just for the fun of
it ! What the hell, they already have my address.

Bob

On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 4:27 PM, roger dixon <roger.dixon at att.net> wrote:

>  I delete them all.  You can usually tell by looking at the content,
> spelling, etc. that they are bogus.  I must get 15-20/week and it is a huge
> waste of time to try to qualify them.
>
>
>
> *Roger Dixon*
>
> *Certified Wind Site Assessor*
>
> *Skylands Renewable Energy, LLC*
>
> *908.337.2057 cell*
>
> *908.730.6474 fax*
>
> *roger.dixon at att.net*
>
>
>
> *From:* re-wrenches-bounces at lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:
> re-wrenches-bounces at lists.re-wrenches.org] *On Behalf Of *Chris Daum
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 27, 2009 4:11 PM
> *To:* jryago at netscape.com; 'RE-wrenches'
> *Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] solar order scams
>
>
>
> Hello Jeff et all:
>
>
>
> For those who do take credit cards (and this has been said before):  with
> the first six digits of any credit card, you or your credit card processor
> can contact the issuing bank, and they will contact the 'real' cardholder to
> see if the transaction is on the up-and-up.  We get several of these a day
> too, and I just delete them.  I used to follow up, just to report their
> cards as stolen, but it's too time consuming.
>
>
>
> Let the seller beware!
>
>
>
> Chris Daum
>
> Oasis Montana Inc.
>
> 406-777-4309
>
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> *From:* re-wrenches-bounces at lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:
> re-wrenches-bounces at lists.re-wrenches.org] *On Behalf Of *Jeff Yago
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 27, 2009 1:58 PM
> *To:* glenn.burt at glbcc.com; RE-wrenches
> *Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] solar order scams
>
> I don't know about you, but we are receiving about 2 or 3 scam emails every
> single day wanting to order solar modules, solar pumps, or other solar
> hardware.  These are easy to spot because although each one is from a
> different "firm", here are the the things to look for that they all contain.
>
>
>
> Usually they say they are needing this solar equipment for a specific
> project, which would imply they would at least have a basic idea of quantity
> and size they are looking for.  Instead, they ask for what you have in stock
> and can ship right away, and they will list several totally different
> combinations of modules, pumps, or components which clearly would not
> normally go together.
>
>
>
> The written language is terrible with very poor grammar, yet they will give
> an address in the US.  They try to appear to be an established business, yet
> their email address is always one of those "free" email services.
>
>
>
> They will always ask "what credit cards do you honor" and they will make a
> big deal about paying up front.
>
>
>
> When this was going around a few years ago, others on the list said there
> was some way they worked this scam where it would check out as a valid
> credit card, but after you shipped the equipment to some bogus address, the
> credit card charge would be voided.  I don't know how you can do this, but I
> assume they rent some low cost apartment to get a street address for a few
> weeks, then ship as much stuff that they can to this address, load it all
> into a shipping container, which is then shipped on to some third
> world country where they can sell anything solar.
>
>
>
> We tried several times to trace these abusiness names or addresses to see
> if this was real, and have passed them on to Internet fraud groups but that
> turned out to be a real waste of time.
>
>
>
> I am sure all businesses get this stuff from time to time, but it seems
> like they are really targeting the solar world.
>
>
>
> Watch out.....
>
>
>
> Jeff Yago
>
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