<div>I get them looking for engine rebuild kits as well as solar. If you run the phone contacts or addresses in a google search you get nowhere or at least not anywhere that would be logical.</div>
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<div>If you do send a response you will get no logical answers to your questions. Sometimes when things are slow at the moment I do that just for the fun of it ! What the hell, they already have my address.</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 4:27 PM, roger dixon <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:roger.dixon@att.net">roger.dixon@att.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<p><span style="COLOR: blue">I delete them all. You can usually tell by looking at the content, spelling, etc. that they are bogus. I must get 15-20/week and it is a huge waste of time to try to qualify them.</span></p>
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<p><b><span style="COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Constantia','serif'">Roger Dixon</span></b></p>
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<p style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><b><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</span></b><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <a href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Chris Daum<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, January 27, 2009 4:11 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:jryago@netscape.com" target="_blank">jryago@netscape.com</a>; 'RE-wrenches'
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<p style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><span style="COLOR: maroon; FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'">For those who do take credit cards (and this has been said before): with the first six digits of any credit card, you or your credit card processor can contact the issuing bank, and they will contact the 'real' cardholder to see if the transaction is on the up-and-up. We get several of these a day too, and I just delete them. I used to follow up, just to report their cards as stolen, but it's too time consuming. </span></p>
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<p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0in"><b><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</span></b><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <a href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jeff Yago<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, January 27, 2009 1:58 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:glenn.burt@glbcc.com" target="_blank">glenn.burt@glbcc.com</a>; RE-wrenches<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [RE-wrenches] solar order scams</span></p>
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<p style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">I don't know about you, but we are receiving about 2 or 3 scam emails every single day wanting to order solar modules, solar pumps, or other solar hardware. These are easy to spot because although each one is from a different "firm", here are the the things to look for that they all contain.</span></p>
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<p style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Usually they say they are needing this solar equipment for a specific project, which would imply they would at least have a basic idea of quantity and size they are looking for. Instead, they ask for what you have in stock and can ship right away, and they will list several totally different combinations of modules, pumps, or components which clearly would not normally go together.</span></p>
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<p style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">The written language is terrible with very poor grammar, yet they will give an address in the US. They try to appear to be an established business, yet their email address is always one of those "free" email services.</span></p>
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<p style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">They will always ask "what credit cards do you honor" and they will make a big deal about paying up front. </span></p></div>
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<p style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">When this was going around a few years ago, others on the list said there was some way they worked this scam where it would check out as a valid credit card, but after you shipped the equipment to some bogus address, the credit card charge would be voided. I don't know how you can do this, but I assume they rent some low cost apartment to get a street address for a few weeks, then ship as much stuff that they can to this address, load it all into a shipping container, which is then shipped on to some third world country where they can sell anything solar.</span></p>
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<p style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">We tried several times to trace these abusiness names or addresses to see if this was real, and have passed them on to Internet fraud groups but that turned out to be a real waste of time.</span></p>
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<p style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">I am sure all businesses get this stuff from time to time, but it seems like they are really targeting the solar world.</span></p></div>
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