[RE-wrenches] Installer's grant

[Bill Brooks]

Drake,

 

My points related to non-contractor installs which came up after you raised
your initial concern. I think Ohio is being ridiculous for not providing
incentives to their qualified installers installing on their own facilities.
This makes absolutely no sense. You can tell them that for me. There is no
conflict of interest-there is a tremendous convergence of interest for a
contractor to live with PV on a daily basis.

 

Bill.

 

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[mailto:re-wrenches-bounces at lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Drake
Chamberlin
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 6:16 AM
To: RE-wrenches
Cc: Carl Adams
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Installer's grant

 

Bill,

In Ohio, self installs get zero incentive at present.  To qualify for the
grant, an installer must be certified by the State.  No unqualified
installers can get the grant. 

Doesn't getting a zero incentive seem a bit overkill?

Thanks,

Drake


At 11:57 PM 8/31/2009, you wrote:



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Roger, 
 
Why would a legitimate contractor argue against this reduced incentive (it
is not a penalty at all)? This is simply acknowledging the fact that
operating a business and providing a long-term system warranty costs money
that a self-installer does not have to carry. This actually came from a
strong recommendation I made to the California Energy Commission since early
in the rebate program over 30% of installations were "self-installed" which
was a bunch of BS. These were black market contractors who did not want to
carry a system warranty or did not have the credentials to install the
system.
 
Once we installed the slightly lower rebate cleaned up most of the black
market contracting and the number of self-installed systems went to the real
number of less than 5%.
 
Arguing against the lower rebate was a mistake that you are going to regret.
It's helpful to learn from history before repeating it.
 
Bill.
 
 
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mailto:re-wrenches-bounces at lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of roger dixon
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 1:33 PM
To: 'RE-wrenches'
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Installer's grant
 
Try the DSIRE website, http://www.dsireusa.org/.  It lists both state and
federal incentives for renewable energy and energy efficiency.  
 
Up until this year, NJ would penalize a "self install", reducing the rebate
amount by 15%.  We argued against that and they have now removed that
penalty.
 
Roger Dixon
Certified Wind Site Assessor
Distributor & Installer of Solar & Wind Energy Systems 
Skylands Renewable Energy, LLC
908.337.2057 cell
908.730.6474 fax
roger.dixon at skylandsre.com
www.skylandsre.com <http://www.skylandsre.com/> 
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mailto:re-wrenches-bounces at lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Drake
Chamberlin
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 10:50 AM
To: RE-wrenches
Subject: [RE-wrenches] Installer's grant
 
Hello Wrenches,

I wanted to see how other states are handling solar grants / rebates on the
homes of installers.  In Ohio there is a grant program that gives $3.00 /
Watt toward residential systems.  Eligible installers must be approved by
the state, and funds are allotted to the installer.  

In this years program, there is a "conflict of interest" clause which says
that installers, employees of installers and subcontractors of installers
are not eligible for any grant funding from the grant received by the
installer.   It is likely that installers can hire their competition to do
installations.

Do other states have this conflict of interest clause?

Thanks, 

Drake Chamberlin
Athens Electric
OH License 44810
CO License 3773
NABCEP TM  Certified PV Installer 
Office - 740-448-7328
Mobile - 740-856-9648 

Drake Chamberlin
Athens Electric
OH License 44810
CO License 3773
NABCEP TM  Certified PV Installer 
Office - 740-448-7328
Mobile - 740-856-9648 

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