[RE-wrenches] California solar intiatives

[Joel Davidson]

Hi Nick,

I think the PV will become like HVAC. Residential and small commercial 
inquiries will be channeled to local installers to keep travel time and 
costs down. People in say, Sacramento, who want a San Francisco contractor 
to do their PV system will have to pay a premium. Big solar manufacturers 
(and almost all are getting big fast with consolidation soon to follow 
making them even bigger multinational corporations) practice "think global, 
act local" as they establish their global-to-local distribution channels.

You are right about using alternative fuels to reduce costs and pollution if 
you must travel a lot. For example, in 2003 a Los Angeles based trucker who 
hauled meat for the US military from LA to the Chicago area was spending 
$3400 a roundtrip on diesel. He put a hydrogen generator (for example 
http://www.thetrucker.com/News/Stories/2006/4/17/Hy-Drivehydrogengeneratorreportsfastermorecompleteengineburn.aspx ) 
on his rig and said that his diesel consumption was reduced 15%. I guess 
pollution was reduced about the same amount.

Joel Davidson

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "nick vida" <nickvida at eesolar.com>
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Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2008 2:24 PM
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] California solar intiatives


> On prop 10,
>
> yes you may feel whatever way you would like about Pickens. Seeing how
> much windy land he owns in texas and that he owns clean energy natural gas
> stations makes it a bit insipid that he is trying to use the government to
> increase his infrastructure. But as a tradesman, if you dont think natural
> gas is a important way to run your fleet of heavy vehicles now and in the
> future, then i dont understand that. You can run CNG right now, in fact I
> do and have for years. It is effective and lower emissions (isnt that part
> of what your business is? environmentalism?) I have seen one work van that
> runs on batteries in europe that has a low range and a long charge time.
> The reality of our business and all the other tradesman is driving up to
> 200 miles a day and driving around often. You can do what you are doing
> now, (buying gas until the battery van comes out never joel?), run a
> neighborhood business, or use natural gas. And if you do already, then you
> welcome an increase in the infrastructure and can only hope they will use
> garbage and cow poop to reach increasing demand instead of imports. And of
> course, when the sales fleet and customers are all going around in EVs,
> you are right Joel, this state will have officially pulled its head out of
> its natural pocket.
>
>
>
>
>> Hello Jay,
>>
>> CalSEIA (and I) am opposed to Prop 7 because, among other things, it 
>> would
>> exclude renewable projects that are 30MW or less from counting toward the
>> State's Renewable Portfolio Standard. If Prop 7 becomes law, it will
>> adversely impact the developing markets for distributed solar 
>> technologies
>> that are located close to load centers and reduce market opportunities 
>> for
>> many solar companies throughout California. Ensuring that <30MW systems
>> can
>> be counted toward RPS goals is very important to expanding the use of
>> solar
>> in California. The Prop 7 people seem well-intentioned and probably got
>> their >30 MW language from the distinction between small and large hydro
>> (large hydro is bad ecology). I am not a "small is beautiful" hardliner
>> because some big problems require big solutions. I think that the world
>> needs both small and large scale PV. We need Jay's PV and PG&E's 800 MW 
>> PV
>> too.
>>
>> Prop 10 is another story. The Los Angeles Times editorialized against 
>> Prop
>> 10 on September 19, saying, "Spending bond money on something as
>> intangible
>> as privately owned vehicles is a terrible idea unless there is a clear
>> public benefit." The Santa Monica Mirror said, "Self-serving Prop. 10
>> sounds
>> good, should lose." See
>> http://ballotpedia.org/wiki/index.php/California_Proposition_10_(2008) T.
>> Boone Pickens will definitely benefit from his Prop 10. I think he is
>> smart
>> enough to figure out a market-driven way to sell and fuel more natural 
>> gas
>> vehicles. I also think that one of Prop 10's supporters, the California
>> Air
>> Resources Board, failed in their duty to the public when the caved to the
>> automobile and fossil fuel industries and killed the electric vehicle
>> mandate. Take fossil fuels out of Prop 10 and I might be in favor of it,
>> but
>> I am against burdening the next generation with another $10 billion debt
>> for
>> a transitional technology like slightly cleaner vehicles. Let's make the
>> great leap forward and end our addiction to fossil fuels asap.
>>
>> Joel Davidson
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "jay peltz" <jay at asis.com>
>> To: "RE-wrenches" <re-wrenches at lists.re-wrenches.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2008 12:00 PM
>> Subject: [RE-wrenches] California solar intiatives
>>
>>
>>> Hi All in California.
>>>
>>> What seems to be the best way to go on the two intiatives #7 and #10.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> jay
>>>
>>> peltz power
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