XW generator start question [RE-wrenches]

[Mark Edmunds]

Hi All,

This change will be incorporated in all the new XW-AGS (Automatic Gen
Start) modules we build, but there is stock of the original
configuration making its way through the distributor channels etc. You
can tell if you have the simplified 2 wire support capability if Gen
type 14 shows up in the set up menus.

If you need this feature  you can contact our customer support group and
they can loan you a USB programming dongle, then the upgrade code can be
down loaded pretty simply.

http://www.xantrex.com/support/case/technical.asp

William - You can use 2 AGS modules on a single XW system, we have a
couple sites where they have done this and it works well, with one
generator being the primary AC source on AC1, the other as back up on
AC2.

Best,

Mark


Mark Edmunds
Xantrex Technology Inc.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jay Peltz, Peltz Power [mailto:jay at asis.com] 
Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 9:28 AM
To: RE-wrenches at topica.com
Subject: Re: XW generator start question [RE-wrenches]


Hi Mark,

is this upgrade now standard, and if not, how hard is it to install?

thanks,

jay
On Apr 25, 2008, at 8:57 AM, Mark Edmunds wrote:

>
> Hi Dan, Jay
>
>
> You have the correct information Dan - the original design did need 
> the "run" signal, even with 2 wire units - the software upgrade we now

> have will allow the system to look at the AC2 voltage to determine 
> that the generator is running so it can be a true 2 wire installation.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Mark
>
>
>
> Mark Edmunds
> Xantrex Technology Inc.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dan Rice [mailto:danrice at scinternet.net]
> Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 12:08 AM
> To: RE-wrenches at topica.com
> Subject: Re: XW generator start question [RE-wrenches]
>
>
> Jay,
>
> Yes, the GSM is required to interface a generator to the XW, 2-wire 
> start or otherwise. The GSM also requires a "generator running" signal

> in order to recognize a running generator and hold the 2-wire signal 
> "on". The GSM "run"
> sensor circuit requires a 12 volt nominal (30 volts max) signal from 
> the generator, and requires another 2 wires between the generator and 
> the GSM, so for a "2-wire" start generator, actually 4 wires are 
> required.
> Xantrex has heard the complaints about this loss of a true 2-wire 
> start feature on the XW, and I understand that there's a software 
> upgrade available that will allow the GSM to recognize when there's AC

> line voltage present at the AC input terminals of the inverter (AC 2 
> in, I assume). This should eliminate the need for the 12 volt "run" 
> signal (and the extra 2 wires) from the generator to the GSM. I 
> haven't tried this upgrade myself. On the one installation I've worked

> on, I ran the additional 2 wires, and piggy-backed off of one of the 
> propane solenoids for the 12 volt "run" signal. The GSM works fine 
> this way.
>
> I hope that helps.
>
> Dan Rice
> Abundant Sun, LLC.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jay Peltz, Peltz Power" <jay at asis.com>
> To: <RE-wrenches at topica.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 7:20 PM
> Subject: XW generator start question [RE-wrenches]
>
>
> |
> | HI All,
> |
> | Do you need the generator start module to control a 2 wire start 
> | generator on the XW inverter?
> |
> | thanks,
> | jay
> |
> | peltz power
> |
>
>
>
> 


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