dishwashers/ off grid [RE-wrenches]

[Jay Peltz, Peltz Power]

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Hi All,

Thanks for the great comments.

I'll pass these along to the customer and let them decide.

thanks again,

jay

peltz power
On Apr 25, 2008, at 3:38 AM, Bill Loesch wrote:

>
>
> Hi Jay,
>
> If you want to get _real_ efficiency, you need to look beyond even  
> the high
> end Americanized models (like the Bosch) and concentrate on the true
> European imports - Asko and Miele and perhaps others.
>
> As with most everything that deals with energy, these (European)  
> folks are
> accustomed to paying non subsidized energy prices and are willing  
> to pay
> more for something that works well and efficiently. Reportedly,  
> these is
> also less restriction on price collusion.
>
> FYI, the heater in most American dishwashers is a single element  
> (often
> exposed at the bottom) which does double duty as both a  
> _supplementary_
> water heater and air heater (for the drying). This heater can  
> obviously not
> be greater than the 15 amp circuit it is plugged into and really  
> has to
> share those 15 amps with the motor. Usually it is a 700, or so,  
> watt element
> that is theoretically going to bring the incoming 120oF hot water  
> up to 140
> where the soap is designed to work and where the _heavy_ grease will
> dissolve. If you don't eat a lot of greasy food you might not need  
> the aux
> heater for the higher temp water. If you don't supply it with 120  
> water it
> may never reach the 140 and the heavy grease (or dried tomato  
> sauce) may not
> dissolve. It is my understanding that the air heater is used to  
> shorten the
> drying cycle and is sometimes labeled plate warmer on the control  
> panel.
>
> Does John Schaeffer's ghost writer address any of these issues in his
> current Sourcebook? Does anybody else publish something as  
> comprehensive and
> current as the Sourcebook?
>
> Bill Loesch
> Solar 1 - Saint Louis Solar
> 314 631 1094
>
>
>


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