[RE-wrenches] Charging with "no contact" systems

mick abraham mick at abrahamsolar.com
Tue Sep 30 16:05:52 PDT 2008


The Magnum inverter number that Bob recommended would not work for international style AC input power, would it? If not for that, the Magnum inverter/charger does seem like a good way to get a lot of battery charger value for the money. Magnum does show some international style inverter/chargers, but not for a 48 volt battery.

Mick Abraham, Proprietor 
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From: "robert ellison" <reellison at gmail.com> 
To: wratterman at sunenergypower.com, RE-wrenches <re-wrenches at lists.re-wrenches.org> 
Sent: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 18:54:06 -0400 
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Charging with "no contact" systems

> Walt,
> Probably about the best bet is another set of inverters just as chargers. Look at the Magnu 4448AE inverters, they have a great charger that draws less incoming ac that any of the other chargers that I have tried. Seems that 2 of the 4448 inverters will each put about 60 amps DC into a battery bank with only 17 amps in @ 240 volts or 34 amps ac @ 120 volts.
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> Just another wrenches opinion,
> Bob
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> On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 10:57 AM, Walt Ratterman <wratterman at sunenergypower.com> wrote:
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> Hello all,
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> We have an application in Haiti (and some African countries as well) where we have inverter /battery systems on a lousy (very lousy) grids.  The grid is good enough to charge batteries, but not sufficient for sensitive electronic loads.
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> Therefore, the systems we are using are three Outback FX 3648 inverters.  If they are connected with AC IN from the grid and the grid is on and is lousy (but good enough to get through the voltage and frequency limits), then this power will be passed on to the computers.  (The reality is that we have to open the voltage window too wide to let the grid in at all, and thus unacceptable to the electronics.)  So, we DO NOT connect the AC IN to the inverters.  In other words, the FX units become inverters only, and never pass AC current from the grid to the loads.  (This is what we are calling "no contact" system – similar to a double conversion UPS system.)
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> So – we need to add separate battery charging to the battery bank that will put in roughly equal amphours to what we feel the daily usage will be during the day.
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> The load is about 8000 watts, which might translate to 140 to 170 amps of discharging.  We might not have to put in the full amount of charge, since our charging can continue in the night hours when the load is not discharging, but we should probably try to charge the batteries at around 100 to 140 Amps DC (48V).
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> Does anyone have a recommendation as to the type of charger that might work best for this, either bulk, or smart, or a combination?  OR……other suggestions for this system that I am just missing??
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> We would plan to monitor this system by using the FlexNET DC system, adding a DC shunt on the negatives of the feed going from the charger TO the batteries.
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> Thanks,
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> Walt
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> Walt Ratterman
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