[RE-wrenches] [Fwd: Re: ice accumulation]
boB
bob at midnitesolar.com
Fri Aug 15 23:12:30 PDT 2008
Well, I just applied 10 Amps into a KC-125G, at 24.5 Volts, for
one hour... The current ~started~ to rise at around 21 Volts.
The KC125G serial fuse rating is 12 Amps.
This actually seems to make a great 245 Watt heater!
Ambient room temperature was 21 degrees C. The panel was a nice and
evenly toasty 33 degrees C. That's a 12 degree C (21.6 degrees F)
temperature rise.
The front area of the Sanyo HIT-195 is only about 1.25 times more than the KC125G.
(1826.88 square inches for the HIT-195 and about 1456 sq. inches for the KC125G)
This means that 700 Watts into a HIT195 should be quite an improvement
over the 245 W into the KC125G and it might just melt some snow or
ice ~IF~ there happens to be enough energy stored (hopefully a generator)
at the site and if it's not TOO cold. The pictures of Ron's mountain
top site look like it could get REAL cold there.
I haven't tried driving a Sanyo HIT module like this before, but
assuming the I-V curves (when driving them this way) are similar
to a typical poly/mono crystalline module, that should work out
to be ~around~ a 27 degree C (48 F) rise. This ~might~ (I don't know
what the snow and/or ice does to this figure now), melt snow down to
less than a zero degree F. environment (-10 C ?). Getting even closer to
the 15 Amps series fuse limit would of course be better but run
the risk tripping the breaker.
I guess I'll just have to try this during the winter, if global warming
can hold off just a wee bit longer here in the NW.
boB
K7IQ
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>> On Thu, 14 Aug 2008, Ron Young wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Wrenches,
>>>
>>> I know this is a nice cool subject for these (hopefully) sun filled
>>> days. I am working on a telecom system that has some issues with ice
>>> accumulation on the panels that essentially shut the system down mid
>>> winter. Wondering if anyone has suggestions to remedy the ice
>>> buildup. It's an extreme mountaintop environment with very high winds
>>> at times and the ice cakes up to 2" - 3" on surfaces. There are some
>>> pics here: www.solareagle/temp/ice.html
>>>
>>> Access to the site in winter is totally out of the question so we are
>>> hoping to find some ideas that might prevent or reduce the ice
>>> accumulation. When the ice shuts the panels down the communications
>>> go down.
>>>
>>> Someone suggested a slippery spray like RainX might help to prevent
>>> accumulation but I think it would quickly be washed off/worn out and
>>> I don't know the uv issues that might reduce power output.
>>>
>>>
>>> Ron
>>> earthRight Solar
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