Misleading fault indications [RE-wrenches]

Mark Frye markf at berkeleysolar.com
Mon Mar 3 21:41:19 PST 2008


Matt/Wrenches,

I regret and apologize for sending the post regarding having manufactures on
the list serve.  I should have directed my comments off-list to Michael
Welch.

I most certainly appreciate the input we receive from the manufactures.
Their willingness to come on-list and provide honest answers to questions
about their products is commendable.
 
Mark Frye
Berkeley Solar Electric Systems
271 Vistamont Dr
Grass Valley CA 95945
(530) 401-8024
www.berkeleysolar.com
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Matt Tritt [mailto:solarone at charter.net] 
Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 8:39 PM
To: RE-wrenches at topica.com
Subject: Re: Misleading fault indications [RE-wrenches]



Well, because they actually /make /what others sell, they know the 
functionality of their products better than anyone else and without them 
we would be just making guesses about a lot of different things that we 
actually don't understand at the same depth?

Consider the contributions of J. Berdner, for instance.

Matt T

Mark Frye wrote:

>Why do we allow manufactures to be on this listserve?
>
>If they are only going pontificate on the alleged virtues of their product,
>and avoid answering direct questions about specific features/functioning of
>their products, I personally don't see a lot of benefit to their presence.
>
>(Some may say the same of mine but....)
> 
>Mark Frye
>Berkeley Solar Electric Systems
>271 Vistamont Dr
>Grass Valley CA 95945
>(530) 401-8024
>www.berkeleysolar.com
> 
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Mark Frye [mailto:markf at berkeleysolar.com] 
>Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 6:15 PM
>To: RE-wrenches at topica.com
>Subject: RE: Misleading fault indications [RE-wrenches]
>
>
>So you are saying that Christopher is incorrect in saying,"... The PV array
>will still continue to produce power...", but correct in saying, "...the
>controller does not indicate a fault has occurred..."?
> 
>Mark Frye
>Berkeley Solar Electric Systems
>271 Vistamont Dr
>Grass Valley CA 95945
>(530) 401-8024
>www.berkeleysolar.com
> 
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Mark Edmunds [mailto:mark.edmunds at xantrex.com] 
>Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 6:05 PM
>To: RE-wrenches at topica.com
>Subject: RE: Misleading fault indications [RE-wrenches]
>
>
>Hi Mark,
>
>For most faults there will be an indication, but like on a lot of the
>Grid Tie Inverters in the unlikely case of a very low impedance fault
>connection directly from the PV negative to ground back to the XW charge
>controller chassis the fuse could blow, protecting against the fault but
>not showing an indication. We have never seen this type of fault before,
>but the fuse certainly would protect against any continued fault current
>flowing.
>
>Mark


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