Another "Pie-In-The-Sky" wind turbine? [RE-wrenches]

Matt Tritt solarone at charter.net
Thu Jan 24 20:36:12 PST 2008


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Dan,

All Betz are off! ;-)

In comparison, if I use the output from the Kestrel e300i, which is 300 
cm in diameter (approx 10'), and is one of the most efficient small 
turbines I know of, the output at 16 MPH is about 500 Watts @ 48 volts 
nominal, slightly higher in high voltage format. This is an averaged 
output using a Weibul distribution, by the way. I think that's pretty good.

The guy who makes these sounds to be in at least his 70's, maybe even 
80's. I doubt that he is an actual intentional fraud, just someone who 
doesn't have a clue.

Matt

Dan Fink wrote:

>Larry -- You could tell your customer that the company claims that the
>turbine defies the laws of Physics at its rated output--they claim it
>beats Betz, 59.26% energy extraction. In a 16 mph wind with a 9 foot
>diameter rotor (their 'rated output' on the website), 1324 watts are
>available. A 'perfect' turbine running right at the Betz limit could do
>at most 784 watts. They claim 1000. 
>Claims of beating Betz put the turbine right in the 'fraud' category. It
>just doesn't happen, not even with utility-scale turbines.
>DAN FINK
>Technical Director
>http://www.otherpower.com/
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>On Thu, 2008-01-24 at 17:25 +0000, Larry Crutcher, Starlight Solar
>wrote:
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>>Wrenches,
>>
>>Does anyone have information or experience with the Wind Electric 
>>Company in Oceanside, CA? http://www.windelectriccompany.com/index.html
>>
>>I had quoted a Skystream system to a customer. They contacted me 
>>yesterday and said they went to see this turbine that claims to start at 
>>1.3MPH and produce energy at 3MPH. Oh yeah, they can do all this at  
>>only 20 feet AGL! 
>>
>>Like so many other makers off magic energy machines, there is very 
>>little information. I am always a skeptic of outrageous claims and have 
>>expressed my standard warning to my customer, "buyer beware". 
>>
>>If you have any info about this that might save my customer from from a 
>>major burn, please contact me. 
>>
>>Sincere thanks,
>>
>>Larry Crutcher
>>Starlight Solar
>>Yuma, AZ
>>Renewable Energy Products
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