Evolution of the Quick connect [RE-wrenches]

[Matt Tritt]

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Willia,

When was the last time you were in central America? What Sky say's is 
true squared down there. I have seen drops that people had to move out 
of the way to get through a doorway; jumbles of drops in huge snarls 
resembling giant fishing leader knots -right in the central business 
districts, no less; had to duck under them on sidewalks, and have seen 
them lying in the streets for days after storms. Oddly, you never hear 
of anyone getting fried by this stuff, but standards sure are variable! 
You're probably aware of this, but there is a very common electric 
instantaneous water heater that is screwed directly onto cold water 
showers. These are 230 VAC units made in Italy (as I recall) that are 
known by many people down there as "hippie killers". I got a swell buzz 
every time I used one at a certain hotel, and the answer I got when I 
complained was "no esta muerto?" :-)

Every body uses MC's in Europe. My bet is that a five year old crazed 
enough to be attempting jungle jim stunts on hanging MC cables would 
simply pull them apart, or right out of the back of the module. He would 
then need to find a nail and poke it into the connector to make contact, 
virtually as ,or less dangerous as sticking the same nail into a 
standard light socket or wall outlet. 5 amps versus 20 or greater. Do 
most parents block wall outlets or make it impossible to unscrew a light 
bulb?

Matt

William Miller wrote:

>
> Sky:
>
> I can not agree with your logic.  Utility drops are not at ground 
> level.  Of course children occasionally make it onto roofs, but the 
> utility drops are very rugged and rarely have conductors exposed.  I'd 
> much rather take my chances hanging from a rugged #1AWG utility drop 
> held in place by preforms than a #10 USE with 500 VDC on it terminated 
> in a $2.00 crimp connector.
>
> No one wants to price solar beyond the reach of any potential user, 
> but wiring is such a small part of the overall cost.  Why would we 
> trade that small price against the life of a child?
>
> William Miller
>
> PS:  If you think high voltage DC is benign, you need a safety meeting.
>
> WM
>
>
>
> At 07:09 PM 1/11/2008, you wrote:
>
>> "Think 5 year old hanging off the wiring jungle gym style.  I have asked
>> many wrenches out there if that image is ok in their minds and I have
>> not found one yet that thinks it is."
>>
>> The image this statement paints tells me its time to shut off all the
>> power coming into our homes from the Utility companies.
>>
>> I think its criminal to hold the solar industry to a higher standard
>> than any of the other power trades.
>>
>> That's what this new code does. A 5 year old child can hang on a power
>> line coming in from the street that's not in conduit but is anyone
>> pointing that out? The power line is often capable of putting out 500
>> amps or more on 2 or more legs. Compared to Solars less than 5 amps
>> typical per leg under load.
>>
>> Outlets in peoples homes are subject to 5 year olds putting forks in
>> them and typically put out more than 20 amps.
>>
>> The people that wrote this new code are a bunch of standards raising
>> saboteours of the solar industry. Single handedly raising the cost of
>> solar installations by another 10%. I know Berdner and others are
>> fighting hard against these anti solar code changes but we're clearly
>> losing.
>>
>> There has to be a better balance struck between existing allowable
>> methods for all other power sources and those allowed for solar. This
>> technology is innately benign and we need to push harder for true plug
>> and play.
>>
>> Of course when its all said and done it's the poor and middle class that
>> gets hurt by the higher standards placed on solar, because the cost
>> moves that much further out of their reach and the air quality continues
>> to go down across the country. And another hundred thousand people
>> suffer from the effects of carbon monoxide poisoning in the home.
>>
>> My 2 cents,
>> Sky Sims
>
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