generator suggestions [RE-wrenches]

[Chris Worcester]

Hi fellow wrenches,
We had a great thread on this back in 2004, and it ended with a post by Kirk
Herander that is the easiest fix for the Kohler 8.5 & 12 RES battery draw
down by the controller. It goes like this; (I have use this wiring on a few
of these now & it works great)
Simply wire the remote start switch in parallel with the run contacts of the
Kohler on-board switch. Do not put the on-board switch in the auto position.
Leave it in the stop (middle) position. It will start/stop just fine
remotely and the starting battery will not drain down. No need to remove the
48 hr power-down jumper either. No additional relays required.

Sincerely,

Chris Worcester 
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-----Original Message-----
From: Travis Creswell [mailto:tcreswell at ozarkenergyservices.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 7:55 AM
To: RE-wrenches at topica.com
Subject: RE: generator suggestions [RE-wrenches]


My limited research before I purchased the last 12RES revealed that Lowes
model is a 12 RESL and has more differences (read cheaper unit) then just
the controller.  I believe it also has a mechanical governing system instead
of an electronic.

The manual that came with the 12RES that we recently installed said you
could remove the jumper to power down after 48hrs or leave it on
continuously just like the unit we installed about 3 years ago.  But the
controller I had did not match my manual.  Everything else matched.  When I
called the supplier they said that I had the new controller and that's the
type they were going to.  In either case the two-wire start still worked as
normal so the need for the controller to remain on is a mystery to me.

You could possibly be talking about a 3rd controller because I've not heard
anything about the 1 to 48 hrs adjustable power down window.  There probably
a hidden technician menu that you could get into if Kohler would tell you
about it.

The controller used less then 3 watts the best I could tell.  You also need
to keep in mind that the unit also has an on board battery charger that must
have power when the generator is running since it does not have a built in
alternator.  After about 3 hrs of running with no charging the on board
battery will be down far enough that the controller will shut the unit off.
So just using a small solar panel dedicated to the starting battery is not a
100% solution if you are going to be doing automatic generator starting.
The systems we were doing could handle this load and the work arounds that
came up with represented "kludges" that would only lead to reliability
issues and shortened battery life.


Best,
Travis Creswell
Ozark Energy Services


-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Wongstrom [mailto:thirstylake at interbel.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 9:18 AM
To: RE-wrenches at topica.com
Subject: Re: generator suggestions [RE-wrenches]



We recently had a fellow ask us to hook up a 12 RES that he had  
bought from Lowes that came with an ADC 2200 controller.  We were  
told that normally the RES comes with the ADC 2100 controller which  
is reprogrammable and can be programmed to power down after 1 or 48  
hours.  The ADC 2200 is not reprogrammable.

We were also told that the RES can be rewired for full output 120VAC 
(L1 and L3 neutral, L2 and L4 hot) but the controller needs to be  


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