What's up with Sanyo's? [RE-wrenches]

[Joel Davidson]

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How was UL burned by BP's soldering problem?

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Phil Undercuffler" <p.undercuffler at conergy.us>
To: <RE-wrenches at topica.com>
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 11:33 AM
Subject: RE: What's up with Sanyo's? [RE-wrenches]


>
> Travis,
>
> The temperature limitation only applies for sites whose Mean Average
> High Temperature (MAHT) is 40C (104F) or greater.  The MAHT can be found
> as simply as going to weather.com, and checking the average high for the
> location.  So far, the only places I've found that apply are some
> portions of California near Palm Springs, and a lot of Arizona and
> Nevada.
>
> The frustrating thing is, Sanyo has a solution for the issue, but UL
> won't allow them to release it without extensive (read, long)
> environmental testing -- UL is gun-shy about allowing changes after
> being "burned" by the BP solder fiasco last year.
>
>
>
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> Please note new phone extension!
>
> Phil Undercuffler
> Technical Services Manager
> Conergy, Inc.
> 1730 Camino Carlos Rey Suite 103
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Travis Creswell [mailto:tcreswell at ozarkenergyservices.com]
> Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 11:50 AM
> To: RE-wrenches at topica.com
> Subject: RE: What's up with Sanyo's? [RE-wrenches]
>
>
> Ok I'm a little confused (more then usual).  What's definition of
> "average"
> temperature?  24hrs, monthly, annual?  There's no place in the world
> that
> has that has an average temp of 104f, right?  So they must mean a
> shorter
> time frame.  Pretty much any place in the lower 48 can hit 104f for a
> few
> hours a year.
>
> Are they talking about ambient or cell temp?
>
> Thanks for the help.
>
> Travis Creswell
> Ozark Energy Services
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Larry Crutcher [mailto:larry at starlightsolar.com]
> Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 12:11 PM
> To: RE-wrenches at topica.com
> Subject: RE: What's up with Sanyo's? [RE-wrenches]
>
>
> Travis and Wrenches,
>
> I received an update a few weeks ago. regarding the HIP-xxxBA3, as of
> August 17th, the temperature restriction remains:
> NO WARRANTY if installed in locations where the average temperature
> reaches or exceeds 104F.
>
> A few other specifications have changed:
>
> 1. They removed the 1000 meter height restriction
> 2. They removed the relative humidity restriction
>   (How many of you knew that there is no warranty if installed in an
> area that has less than 45% humidity!)
> 3. Increased maximum modules in series to 8
> 4. Reduced the tolerance to -5%
>
> This information was provided by:
> Robert Zerner
> Solar Market Development Specialist
> SANYO Energy (USA) Corporation
> 2600 Network Blvd. Suite 600  Frisco  TX,  75034
> Office: (469) 362-5645   Cell: (214) 514-1301
>
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> Larry Crutcher
> Starlight Solar
> Retail Store: 2998 Shari Ave. Yuma, AZ 85365
> Phone (928) 941-1660
> Fax (928) 342-9103
> Mailing Address:11279 S. Glenwood Ave, Box 11114, Yuma, AZ 85367
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>
> Travis Creswell wrote:
>>
>> What is the latest on the Sanyo warranty issue regarding heat?  We've
> a
>> project coming up that I'm planning to use them on.  We're restricted
> by
>> a
>> limited area and it's about 250' away from the house so the idea is to
>
>> use
>> Sanyo's on trackers to maximize the production and minimize the
>> footprint.
>> On paper it's makes for the best energy production per installed $.
>>
>> Sure we'll have an occasional issue with the tracker controller but
>> we'll
>> mount the controller within easy reach of the ground and keep a spare
>> with
>> us so the down time will be pretty minimal.
>>
>> And where is a good place to buy Sanyo's?  One supplier that carries
>> them
>> doesn't appear to care about my business as they haven't called me
> back
>> and
>> the rest of my usual suppliers don't carry them.
>>
>> As always, thanks in advance!
>>
>> Travis Creswell
>> Ozark Energy Services
>>
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>
>
>
> Larry Crutcher
> Starlight Solar
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