Out in the outback with OutBack [RE-wrenches]
Matt Tritt
solarone at charter.net
Tue Apr 17 10:13:01 PDT 2007
<x-flowed>
Eric,
This is what makes the Sunny Island so attractive, but expensive! If
you're not familiar with them, give SMA a call and request some product
lit., or check them out on the web.
Matt T
Eric Youngren wrote:
>I have a theory. I tried to address it in an earlier post about GT w/ BB
>systems but nobody bit. Here again I'll throw it out there for those who
>understand these things better.
>
>I think the problem is an inherent difference in inverter technologies and
>function.
>
>In my SEI PV2 class in Carbondale a few years back, John Berdner taught
>inverters, and he broke it down like this:
>
>There are two basic types of inverters, voltage source and current source.
>
>Voltage source are battery based, and produce their own voltage, waveform
>frequency and current flow.
>
>Current source inverters are grid-tied, and generate current flow only.
>They need an AC voltage, waveform and frequency to which they can
>synchronize and "push back" current against.
>
>I may be oversimplifying this, but is the inherent problem with high
>efficiency grid tie and battery backup simply that these are two very
>different tasks to ask of a single inverter? Maybe the answer is a "hybrid"
>dual-purpose inverter system utilizing both technologies in a single box?
>
>Eric
>
>
>
>
>The grid tied version of the FX is very fussy about what it will kind of
>AC input power quality it will accept. Yes, you could possibly set up a
>manual transfer switch on the bidirectional inverter AC input with an AC
>inverter generator. You could use an external transfer switch, but the
>customer would still have to go to the mate and tell the FX the input is
>now "gen" rather than "grid". This is mighty complicated for your
>average customer to manage, plus I have not seen large wattage inverter
>generators. The SW used to do that all automatically... so rather than
>just have the inverter automatically start the genny and go, you have to
>change the transfer switch position, change the input configuration in
>the mate and then start the genny.... and when the grid comes back up
>you need to reverse everything back.
>
>That is why the other "work around kludge" for what most see as an
>obvious design fault in the FX is to use a 2:1 step down transformer on
>the genny output (_any_ genny will work for this), rectify to DC and
>dump that as another input to the MX60. Yes, this is clunky and home
>brew (which I try to avoid now days) but workable, and presents nothing
>to do on the customers part but start the generator (or let the mate do
>it) when the grid is down and the batteries are low.
>
>
>
>
>
>>
>>
>
>
>- - - -^----------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
- - - -
To send a message: RE-wrenches at topica.com
Archive of previous messages: http://lists.topica.com/lists/RE-wrenches/read
List rules & how to change your email address: www.mrsharkey.com/wrenches/etiquette.php
Check out participant bios: www.mrsharkey.com/wrenches/
Hosted by Home Power magazine
Moderator: michael.welch at homepower.com
--^----------------------------------------------------------------
This email was sent to: michael.welch at homepower.com
EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?bz8Qcs.bz9JC9.bWljaGFl
Or send an email to: RE-wrenches-unsubscribe at topica.com
For Topica's complete suite of email marketing solutions visit:
http://www.topica.com/?p=TEXFOOTER
--^----------------------------------------------------------------
</x-flowed>
More information about the RE-wrenches
mailing list