Generwreck auto start [RE-wrenches]

[Matt Tritt]

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Hey Nick, Larry, et all

This is a lot like the new Kohler RY models that use a big pigtail plug 
for a multitude of external connections - if you just want to run a pair 
of remote start wires you have to order a "special" plug adapter that 
connects to the blankeyblank pigtail. There is now no way possible to 
make your connection in any of the control modules, since some wiseguy 
decided to pot all those circuits that were formally very well labeled 
and easy to make your connections with.

But I digress. You will find that, should you call Generac, you will be 
told that they are only meant as standby units, not for stand alone 
applications, and that you will be messing with any warrantys if you 
adapt them for other purposes. Not that you can't rig it to work, but 
what happens with the Xfer switch, etc., when you do? I admit that I 
hate Generacs, from the little ones to the big ones, and don't have much 
patience with "trying" to get them to work, since after you do, you 
still have a Generac! ;-) The really weird thing is that Siemens is now 
private labeling them. What the? You still might try to get a schematic 
for that particular build right from Generac, but rest assured that you 
will go through several rings of Hell to get it.

Just to make sure that I am being completely tangential, I feel that 
Lister, Caterpillar, Multi-Quip and Onan are about the only remaining 
makers that offer generators in the right sizes for off-grid that are 
worth a hoot: excellent power quality, 1800 RPM, built like REAL 
industrial equipment, and priced that way. I think that only Lister and 
Onan are offering LP sets with Diesel engines modified for gaseous fuel. 
It would be pretty cool if Honda were to come out with a larger version 
of their inverter gensets, but they sure don't show any signs of doing so.

Good luck with the wires!

Matt T

Larry Crutcher, Starlight Solar wrote:

>Nick Lucchese wrote:
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>>Greetings Fellow Wrenches,
>>  Caught in the middle of trying to auto start a Generac Guardian 5242 
>>13 KW propane generator with an Outback inverter. No problems on the 
>>Outback end, been doing that successfully for years. The customer 
>>previously purchased the said generator and even after scouring the 
>>manual I cannot find
>>which two wires to hook up to the relay on the other end of the Aux 
>>outputs. Has anyone on this list come across this before? The unit 
>>also came with it's own automatic transfer switch so it appears that 
>>I may be able to parallel my relay wires in there. The only thing I 
>>can find in the manual is a little block showing "12vdc transfer 
>>coil". From there nothing else seems obvious in their manual and I'd 
>>like to go back armed with a little info on what to look for. Any 
>>suggestions/experiences appreciated.
>>
>>Thanks in advance for your time,
>>
>>Nick A Lucchese
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>What I have done for off grid use is to cut 1 wire going to the AUTO 
>side of the switch (a DPDT), install a 12 volt relay n/o contacts in 
>series with that wire, then leave the switch in AUTO. When the Outback 
>calls for generator, the relay closes and the generator takes over like 
>you put it in AUTO. This solution leaves the MAN and OFF position  for 
>local control. It has worked for me on many Generacs. Of course, this 
>will not work with line voltage present.
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>Larry Crutcher
>Starlight Solar
>Yuma, AZ
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