phantom loads on the Kohler [RE-wrenches]

blair may tump at hughes.net
Wed Oct 17 17:37:58 PDT 2007


Addressing the phantom  loads on the Kohler gens using the ADC
Controllers. What one does is the generator start/auto switch is what I
am talking about interrupting. The 2 wires that are used to control
remote start, wires I think are #3&4 off the cust interface board these
have pink butt connectors. Connect these 2 wires together. Relay sockets
that I use;  yellow wire is #30 the red,I remove this is the center #87,
the blue wire is #87a 
Next the #30 term/wire off your relay will be plugged into the wire you
have removed from the "AUTO" side of the switch, wire says auto.
Wire/term #87a or the switched side of the relay will be plugged into
the spot where you removed the auto wire. Again the 86 & 85 coil wires
on the relay will be powered by your aux relays on you OB s if you are
using them. 
This set up I use for the Onan gensets as well.
Still confused contact me off list. tump
Kohler publication "TP-6344  12/06a" does have instructions for the ADC
2100 controller www.kohlerpower.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Wongstrom [mailto:thirstylake at interbel.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 1:40 PM
To: RE-wrenches at topica.com
Subject: Re: generator suggestions [RE-wrenches]




Blair, I am a little slow.  Are you interrupting the power supply to  
the controller?


Jeff Wongstrom
Thirsty Lake Solar


On Oct 17, 2007, at 8:47 AM, blair may wrote:

>
> By installing a simple relay and controlling the 2 wires that are used

> to place the unit into auto mode you eliminate that phampton
> load. The 12 v relay coil #s 85 & 86 is controlled by your AGS  
> module. This unit does't have a battery charging circuit, but does  
> come w/ a ac charger that can be wired into the output circuit.
> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeff Wongstrom <thirstylake at interbel.net>
>
> Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 08:17:55
> To:RE-wrenches at topica.com
> Subject: Re: generator suggestions [RE-wrenches]
>
>
>
>
> We recently had a fellow ask us to hook up a 12 RES that he had bought
> from Lowes that came with an ADC 2200 controller.  We were told that 
> normally the RES comes with the ADC 2100 controller which is 
> reprogrammable and can be programmed to power down after 1 or 48 
> hours.  The ADC 2200 is not reprogrammable.
>
> We were also told that the RES can be rewired for full output 120VAC
> (L1 and L3 neutral, L2 and L4 hot) but the controller needs to be 
> reprogrammed accordingly, not possible with the ADC 2200.
>
> Jeff Wongstrom
> Thirsty Lake Solar
>
>
>
> On Oct 17, 2007, at 5:38 AM, Travis Creswell wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi Todd,
>>
>> We recently installed a Kohler 12 RES and couldn't be more pleased
>> with it. I think the 8.5 is the same unit, just smaller.  For the 
>> price the 12 RES
>> was hard to beat.  $3519 with free shipping from Ziler Electric.
>>
>> We installed several 12RES and they have been good units. 2-wire
>> start, able to run 100% unbalanced (you can have 6kW on one phase and

>> nothing on the
>> other and they don't care), quiet and reliable.
>>
>> The main wart with these units is they have a phantom load via their
>> on board controller.  You used to be to pull a jumper off of the 
>> board and
>> partially resolve that but the last unit we got arrived with a potted
>> controller board so there was no way to get to that jumper without
>> damaging
>> the control board.  But they do everything else so well the  
>> controller
>> phantom's load can be easily accepted.
>>
>> Best,
>> Travis Creswell
>> Ozark Energy Services


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