warranty issues [RE-wrenches]

Mark Frye markf at berkeleysolar.com
Wed Jun 6 08:37:04 PDT 2007


Geoff,

Here is the warranty language from the CSI Handbook:

"2.4 Warranty Requirements
In 2007, all systems must have a minimum 10-year warranty provided in
combination by the
manufacturer and installer to protect the purchaser against defective
workmanship, system or
component breakdown, or degradation in electrical output of more than
fifteen percent from their
originally rated electrical output during the ten-year period. The warranty
must cover the solar
generating system only, including PV modules (panels) and inverters, and
provide for no-cost
repair or replacement of the system or system components, including any
associated labor
during the warranty period.
Self-installed systems must have a minimum 10-year warranty on the equipment
to be installed
to protect the purchaser against breakdown or electrical output degradation
of major system
components. In this case, the warranty need not cover the labor costs
associated with removing
or replacing major components because any repairs would be done by the
self-installer or at the
self-installer's expense.
For the 2007 program year, meters must have a one-year warranty to protect
against defective
workmanship, system or component breakdown, or degradation in electrical
output of more than
fifteen percent from their originally rated electrical output during the
warranty period. On or
before January 1, 2008, the warranty requirements will be increased to a
minimum of 5 years for
meters, unless the CEC establishes alternate requirements."

What am I doing?

1- I use an established cell technology, produced by large, established
manufacture and vended by people I trust.
2- I pay extra for inverters that have the highest overall yield, the lowest
instance of product failure, and very strong institutional commitment to
supporting warranties.
3- I always us a flashing on every roof penetration.

BTW, I have asked folks at the CSI on several occasions about the scope of
the warranty.  I always ask, "If the system is producing the energy, but the
roof is leaking, is that a CSI warranty problem?"  I have always been told
"no", but you can't really rely upon that.

MPF

-----Original Message-----
From: Geoff Greenfield [mailto:Geoff at Third-Sun.Com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 7:14 AM
To: RE-wrenches at topica.com
Subject: Re: warranty issues [RE-wrenches]



Does the CEC 10 year warranty req. spell out what and how etc etc?  If so -
can someone point me to it?  In OH we have a 2-yr req. with no fine print...
the fine print is where it's at... I could give you a 100 year warranty with
fine print that will keep Marco behind a desk and out of the hammock - but I
wouldn't be proud of it and it wouldn't buy me long term customers...

We have been left hanging too many times as customers' expectation meet with
manufacturer warranties' fine print ("yes the part replacement is covered
but not our two trips to replace it...").  We now are making our own fine
print... then putting it is plain-speak and bold so we are all on the same
page.  We offer a 100% warranty on any faulty workmanship on our part, no
questions asked... but component failures that are not our fault get the
service rate, including drive time.

What are the rest of you wrenches doing?

For a brighter energy future,

Geoff Greenfield
President
Third Sun Solar & Wind Power Ltd.
340 West State street, Unit 25
Athens, Ohio 45701
(740) 597-3111   fax: (740)597-1548
www.third-sun.comwarranty


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