Modern Jacobs [RE-wrenches]

[Geoff Greenfield]

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Travis - we have numerous wti Jacobs here in OH , and numerous failures!  I
stay away and steer my customers away.  the complicated design gets more
power and has more potential for failure - it's a shame they use the same
name as Jacobs - the old stuff was great.  My sources say WTI bought the
(new) business and a ton of inventory, then shut down the lines and is only
fabing the parts needed to sell the remaining inventory - so that doesn't
inspire confidence in support etc down the line.  Me and my Bergey 10k lost
a bid to a Jacobs 20k at a very high visibility park... monopole, utility
footing the bill etc... on the basis of $/watt first cost.  I played the
lifetime cost card and lost - I now feel vindicated that the Jacobs has been
down 3 times, went through 3 scary inverters (none with UL listing) and has
recently thrown a blade (no injury praise Jah).

You get what you pay for and units that last cost more.

For a brighter energy future,

Geoff Greenfield
NABCEP Certified Energy Practitioner

THIRD SUN SOLAR & WIND POWER Ltd.
340 West State Street
Athens, OH 45701

www.third-sun.com
(740) 597-3111

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Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 12:36:30 -0500
From: "Travis Creswell" <ozsolar at ipa.net>
Subject: Modern Jacobs




Hello All,



Please excuse is this is a repeat for those also on the AWEA list.



I am researching the Jacobs turbine manufactured by WTI from Prior Lake, MN.
We have installed small turbines of all sizes including the 10 kW Bergey
Excel-S and a 65 kW Nordtank.  But we have no experience with the Jacobs
machine.  It does enjoy a great reputation but we've all been bit by
products with great reputations.



We already have approval from the local utility to use the Jacobs turbine
with MasterMind inverter.  Combined with our low wind resource and
customer's energy needs we are looking at the 20 kW model.



The customer understands that the Jacobs will require maintenance and has no
problem with that.  They will contract us to do it.



I'd really like to hear of others direct experience with these Jacobs
machines from WTI.  Good or bad.  Any thing you have, on or off list would
be appreciated.



Thanks so much in advance,



Travis Creswell

Ozark Energy Services, Inc.

10633 Foliage Rd.

Joplin, MO 64804

417-623-6296




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