SPAM: Re: pouring concrete [RE-wrenches]

[Matt Tritt]

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  We cut vertical slots in the pipe with the "ears" bent out @ 45 deg. to
allow the mud to flow in and prevent the pole from turning and,
occaisionally, weld short pieces of rebar onto the pipe.

  In a deep pole installation in a roundish hole I doubt that rebar in the
crete would make any difference at all since it's a monolithic pour with the
pole acting as rebar - especially when you allow the concrete into the pipe.

  Matt T
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: "Todd Cory, Mt. Shasta Energy Services" <toddcory at finestplanet.com>
  To: <RE-wrenches at topica.com>
  Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2004 1:20 PM
  Subject: Re: pouring concrete [RE-wrenches]




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  Do you guys add rebar into the hole, or just plant the pipe in concrete?

  Todd


  Gary Higbee wrote:

  >
  > Joe,
  >
  > For this amount of concrete it may make sense to hire a pumping crew. I
just
  > did a 6 yard pour for a couple decent-sized pole mounts (2.7Kw
addition). In
  > this case we had a seep and steep terrain that eliminated the
possibility of
  > backing up the truck. The operation went very smoothly, and the pour was
a
  > breeze. Just be very ready before they show up because things move fast.
And
  > if you do hire a pumping truck make sure they are coordinated with the
  > concrete folks, as the mix is often different (pea gravel vs. sharp
stuff,
  > which protects the hoses).
  >
  > I want to distinguish between the pumping rig and a boom truck. You
don't
  > need the expensive boom--just a trailer-based crew that has a hopper
that
  > the concrete truck feeds.
  >
  > In our case we had about twice the distance you do, and the steep slope
and
  > seep would have made the wheelbarrow option very challenging without the
  > construction of ramps, etc. The pumping crew ran $ 250, added to the fee
of
  > about $ 80/yard plus extra mileage. Yes it does cost more, but if you
hire a
  > crew with wheelbarrows how much will this run, and will you get stuck
with
  > extra charges from the concrete folks, as they slowly pour ton after ton
  > into the wheelbarrows? With a pumper there should be no extra concrete
truck
  > time.
  >
  > I understand your client not wanting a concrete truck on the lawn. It's
  > amazing how deep those trucks can sink. Check out the pumping thing or
ask
  > the concrete folks what their thoughts are on booming the mix most of
the
  > way (though I think the max is around 20-something feet). Don't even
think
  > about mixing that amount of concrete with a small mixer and redi-mix.
  >
  > Hope this helps...
  >
  > Gary

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