GT with Batteries (was SW Plus) [RE-wrenches]

Joel Davidson joeldavidson at earthlink.net
Mon Feb 9 20:10:58 PST 2004


Bill,
I, too, am happy with my +5 year old SW4048 workhorse. I'm hoping that
Outback and others will adopt the old Hewlett-Packard credo: make the best
and then make something better to stay 2 steps ahead of the competition.


> [Original Message]
> From: Bill Brooks <billb at endecon.com>
> To: <RE-wrenches at topica.com>
> Date: 2/9/04 6:47:07 PM
> Subject: RE: GT with Batteries (was SW Plus) [RE-wrenches]
>
> Joel and Allan,
>
> Always one to contradict blanket statements, I have to say that I am
> extremely pleased with my pre-GTI SW system. Knock on wood, it has
performed
> flawlessly for over five years. I think that is signficant. With the
> adjustment made to make it run more efficiently, with C-40s and a low fill
> factor AstroPower AP-120 array, I'm a satisfied customer.
>
> Personally, I think Outback, SMA, Beacon, Magnatek, and EVERY JOE'S
INVERTER
> HOUSE (no such thing in case you serious people are wondering) have a very
> tall task to beat my system.
>
> Can it be done--Absolutely. Is it easy to post the reliability numbers of
> the SW--no way. Remember that an inverter has to work to make electricity
> ;-).
>
> Bill.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joel Davidson [mailto:joeldavidson at earthlink.net]
> Sent: Monday, February 09, 2004 6:21 PM
> To: RE-wrenches at topica.com
> Subject: Re: GT with Batteries (was SW Plus) [RE-wrenches]
>
>
> Allan,
> I agree. When I installed my pre-GTI and several others and a few
> non-battery, big-blue-cap SW-series inverters, they were the only thing
> available. What a difference a few years makes. SMA has made a big
> footprint in the silicon and Outback is the favorite of techies. Still no
> "appliance PV" a la HVAC, but good HVAC is almost always a site-specific
> professionally design. When I get around to it, I'm going to replace my
C40
> with an MX60. When my SW4048 joins the ever-growing landfill, I'll
probably
> go batteryless PV and put in a separate UPS. Customers don't understand
> that the California PV rebates are for "Emerging Renewables," but wrenches
> sure know. Onward through the fog.
>
>
> > [Original Message]
> > From: Allan Sindelar <allan at positiveenergysolar.com>
> > To: <RE-wrenches at topica.com>
> > Date: 2/9/04 5:55:36 PM
> > Subject: Re: GT with Batteries (was SW Plus) [RE-wrenches]
> >
> > Joel,
> > Sorry, but I never found the pre-GTI SW series to be especially good for
> > grid-tied. We had one client whose array was small enough (1,200W) that
we
> > suggested that he only sell in summer, as the lack of silent sell meant
> that
> > in the winter, keeping the inverter in SELL meant a net deficit over
> running
> > LBX or FLT. Different markets, different clients, different systems.
> >
> > Once we became aware that better inverters were in the pipeline (Outback
> and
> > Sunny Island) we recommended to our clients to either stay batteryless
or
> > wait for a year for better options. We told more than one Sunnyboy
client
> > that within 1-3 years there would be more and better choices than what
are
> > currently available, and they were content with that as a long-term
> > solution, with a batteryless system installed now.
> >
> > Allan @+E
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Joel Davidson" <joeldavidson at earthlink.net>
> >
> >
> > > Allen, thanks for the feedback. The old SW4048 pre-GTI was/is great
for
> > > grid-tied net-metered PV systems. Although this market has shrunk,
what
> > are
> > > you all installing now for people who want grid-tie and battery
backup?
> > > Joel Davidson
> >
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