Tankless Water Heater Scaling etc. [RE-wrenches]
Matt Tritt
solarone at charter.net
Thu Oct 28 16:14:10 PDT 2004
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Jeez Tom,
No need to use absolutes here, leave that to the candidates! If you were
to poke around on the net you would find plenty of actual scientific studies
by actual real scientists that claim the contrary - and some that claim the
opposite! LOL.
One paper entitled "Conditions and mechanisms of the deposition of the
solid calcium carbonate phase from aquaeous solution under the influence of
a magnetic. field" by Martynova and Gusef, USSR, 1967., clearly concludes
that "it" is an actual and measurable phenomena. I gave up on gathering more
titles because they all have titles that put me to sleep.
Some studies claim that the effect is a result of (temporarily) breaking
the hydrogen bond with a magnetic field, and some claim it only works in
water with a certain abount of Fe in solution. Who the hell knows?
I kind of like the Iron content theory myself, but the main thing is that
there are bizillions of large (and probably very conservative) water users
around the planet that employ various forms of these Vudu gizmos that find
they do actually do something. Maybe it's just wishful thinking. Maybe it's
not. Maybe it has entirely to do with the amount and proportion of the TDS
in the water supply.
On a believability scale of 1 to 100 with 100 being "you are reading
this", and 1 being "the Red Sox will win the World Series" I'd give it about
75.
Matt T
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Magnets cannot have any effect on water- it violates all the laws of
physics
there is no scientific evidence and no credible chemist or physicist who
gives any credence to this voodoo- my apologies to all witch doctors
gator tom
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Hi y'All,
Matt is right magnetic descalers do work.
UK link: http://www.electronicdescaler.com/Cas_4.htm
Canadian Link: http://www.oceta.on.ca/profiles/magnatek/magnatek_tech.html
I have seen these on one customers home, but they couldn't tell if it
worked. However there was no scale buildup on the fixtures, and the
electric water heater has been in use for many years. This is in a hard
water area of the central valley.
This looks like a good candidate for off grid houses.
American Link: http://www.clearwater-dolphin.com/
Industrial descalers
UK Link re: Kyoto protocol and electronic descaler contribution to
emissions reduction, good arguments why the US should ratify the Kyoto
Protocol. http://www.engineeringtalk.com/news/enh/enh100.html
Slovak Link: 12 V DC 100mA
http://www.powel.sk/index2.php?lang=en
This looks like a good candidate for grid tied houses.
UK ajudication (judgment) on advertising claims for electronic descaler
http://www.asa.org.uk/adjudications/show_adjudication.asp?adjudication_id=31783&from_index=by_media&dates_of_adjudications_id=all
Judgement was that descalers do prevent scale buildup, but it takes
longer than 8 weeks to remove old scale deposits.
There is a GSA (Federal Government) approved fixed magnet descaler but I
can't find my notes, I'll post an update when I find it.
cul deant
Matt Tritt wrote:
> If you are in a really hard water area you might try a clamp-on magnet
on
> the cold water inlet to the water heater to prevent calcium build-up.
> Believe it or not, this method is universally used by boiler companies
and
> maintenance people all over the world with success. Yes, I can hear the
> collective groans, but it actually does work.
>
> Matt T
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